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bofh
07-18-2019, 11:18 AM
I was cleaning some tree sap off my car yesterday with Tar-X and wondered if my work was also removing sealant. The web site says Tar-X is "also a strong cleaner" so I'm guessing it does have this effect. I'm wondering if anyone knows the answer for sure.

acuRAS82
07-18-2019, 11:39 AM
I was cleaning some tree sap off my car yesterday with Tar-X and wondered if my work was also removing sealant. The web site says Tar-X is "also a strong cleaner" so I'm guessing it does have this effect. I'm wondering if anyone knows the answer for sure.

I don’t “know” the answer but my guess is the answer is yes, it would very much degrade or fully remove wax/sealants. Similar to bug remover, which most recommend to reapply protection afterwards (that’s probably partially also due to bug sponge scrubbing though).

Stronger sealants and coatings may be able to take it with less degradation.

Im interested in responses of others as well though since I’m not 100% positive of my response due to limited Tar Remover experiences.

Rsurfer
07-18-2019, 12:16 PM
Car Pro recommends using TarX to remove Reload (sealant) before using Gliss or CQuartz Lite when topping over CQuartz UK 3.0. It appears that TarX will remove a sealant (wax) but not a coating.

Mike Phillips
07-18-2019, 01:09 PM
When I get asked questions like this I re-phrase the question into and "extreme" hypothetical.

Like this,


Does Tar-X add more wax and sealant?


What's the opposite of the word add?



:)

Bruno Soares
07-18-2019, 01:12 PM
Pretty sure it removes wax/sealant or at least degrades it by a lot. Even light coatings like Gliss are affected by Tar-X which should only be used for spot treatments unless you plan on coating again.

bofh
07-18-2019, 05:43 PM
Car Pro recommends using TarX to remove Reload (sealant) before using Gliss or CQuartz Lite when topping over CQuartz UK 3.0. It appears that TarX will remove a sealant (wax) but not a coating.

Perfect reasoning, thank you!

PaulMys
07-18-2019, 05:48 PM
Any time I use a product such as this (Tar-X, 3M GPAR, strong APC's) I will always re-apply my wax or sealant. Just to be safe....

Mike@ShineStruck
07-18-2019, 10:38 PM
Through my testings I eventually found its a possiblity, as it's dependant on chemical tolerances.

Some resist alkaline and solvents, but strip via acid..while others recost acid but not the others. And so fourth

When I want to chemicals strip or decon I'll prep with acid, solvent then 2 types of solvents

SWETM
07-19-2019, 01:01 AM
If the LSP has some kind of oil based build up it will remove that part. As mentioned Reload and Gliss has this kind of protection in it or more like in the hydrophobic layer of it. But it's only these oils it desolves and leave the rest behind. I have used it on spray on rinse off products with no ill impact on it. We have a lot of tar and all kind of oil based dirt here in Sweden during the winter months. And if you don't want to get these in your wash mitt it's a pretreatment with tar remover basicly at every wash here. TarX is one of the most effective ones in this ability. So I save it for when it's really bad LOL. Otherwise we use some kind of petroleum based tar removers. And it's only used a little under where the windows starts and down on the side panels and the back of vehicals. With an use to often over the window starts it can be going in through the seals and desolve the rust protection inside the doors and other places is in the wheel wells you don't use it either or the undercarriage.

So it depends on what kind of protection you have how much TarX has an impact on it. And a little hard to say which will effect it or not. Test on the area behind the rear wheel as there is often where you have most of the tar. If you have a tree sap spot. Spray TarX lightly on just that area 1 spray is useally enough. Have a mf towel ready to get any run off from the spot. You can also spray TarX on the mf towel and spread it out over the tree sap or tar spots. And wait 30 seconds to 3 minutes and gently wipe it off with working it from the outside and in to the center. Rinse thoroughly afterwards or use a water soaked mf towel to wipe off any residue left. As you do this you can check if the protection is impacted or not and if or it will put your mind at ease top it up.

Calendyr
07-19-2019, 09:55 AM
Anytime you are using a solvent, if it doesn't completelly remove the wax or sealant, it will at the very least remove most of it. I haven't looked at the ingrediants for Tar-X, but I am pretty sure it's an Hydrocarbon of some sort. Anything that can remove glue often is.

Calendyr
07-19-2019, 09:56 AM
Any time I use a product such as this (Tar-X, 3M GPAR, strong APC's) I will always re-apply my wax or sealant. Just to be safe....

You can add Iron removers to that list too.

And safe way to go about it.