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tim500
07-05-2019, 02:27 PM
I was able to buff out water spots off my car, most likely caused by sprinklers. I live in southern Florida and it constantly rains here. Should I be in panic every time it rains which is every day in the afternoon? Do I need to wash the car every time it rains? Which would be every day. I spend a lot of money on blackfire products I don't want my paint damaged from water or rain. What is the correct approach for a daily driver black car in very hot southern Florida?

custmsprty
07-05-2019, 03:06 PM
Sell it and get a white car LOL :laughing:

I live in Tampa, unless it's a garage queen like my GC.

Rain won't hurt as long as you have a good sealant on it, it's no where near as bad as hard water from sprinklers.

tim500
07-05-2019, 03:10 PM
Sell it and get a white car LOL :laughing:

I live in Tampa, unless it's a garage queen like my GC.

Ran won't hurt as long as you have a good sealant on it, it's no where near as bad as hard water from sprinklers.
So true! This is my last black car.

custmsprty
07-05-2019, 03:31 PM
I just traded my white Rogue in for this.
Polish Angel Cosmic beading during a Florida thunderstorm. When I drive it rolls right off. No water spots etc.

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Jayfro
07-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Rain

I live in Houston so our weather is going be similar. I think Sonax PNS is something you might want to look at.

I just corrected my black Acura a month or so ago with BF One Step, then applied PNS based on the strong recommendation from Mike P. I no longer have water spots, it just beads right off and the "self cleaning" is pretty awesome too! Application isn't hard but it's not the easiest, inside a garage, spray a small area, let it set for about 45-60 seconds then wipe/buff. I found that the initial application took some time since it was my first time and the extreme humidity and possibly the heat (95%+ and about 90-95 degrees that day) made it a little harder to set...but man once it set...it looks awesome!

I did my wife's BMW X3 2 weeks ago with BF One Step and PNS, it went a little faster since I knew in's and out's of PNS and was ready for it!

I'd recommend having quite a few high quality MF towels, a good light to inspect it as you go to hit the high spots, work in small areas so it doesn't dry, work in a covered area/garage. If it does dry, just spray a little on the area and wipe, not a big deal!! I also found when you apply it, it tends to be a bit (ok, more than a bit) grabby on the towel. I've since applied BSD from Sonax a couple of weeks after PNS...the car looks better and better...seems like the black gets "deeper"!

Of course there are other products out there but my advice is to take a look as PNS.

Jay

Paul A.
07-05-2019, 06:15 PM
I know we're discussing sealants but let me throw in my current experience with GTechniq CSL+EVO. I have gone through 4 previous coatings and every one suffered water spotting that frustrated me. CSL+EVO has been the first to behave spot free after rain and sprinkler hits.

My DD is black and we've been pounded with rain lately here in Tampa.

rlmccarty2000
07-05-2019, 07:50 PM
Rain won’t normally leave hard water spots unless you have a lot of pollutants in the air. A quick wipe off with a rinseless wash should remove rainwater spotting. Spotting caused by city water is a different story based on the total dissolved solids (TDS). The minerals in the water dry on the paint and, in my experience, will have to be buffed off. I’ve tried a few different “water spot removers” and I’ve had no luck with any of them.

tim500
07-06-2019, 06:52 AM
Rain won’t normally leave hard water spots unless you have a lot of pollutants in the air. A quick wipe off with a rinseless wash should remove rainwater spotting. Spotting caused by city water is a different story based on the total dissolved solids (TDS). The minerals in the water dry on the paint and, in my experience, will have to be buffed off. I’ve tried a few different “water spot removers” and I’ve had no luck with any of them.

wipe off a dirty car could cause scratching. if I breath near my car I get a scratch. its a black car never again. never.

TTQ B4U
07-06-2019, 08:38 AM
I was able to buff out water spots off my car, most likely caused by sprinklers. I live in southern Florida and it constantly rains here. Should I be in panic every time it rains which is every day in the afternoon? Do I need to wash the car every time it rains? Which would be every day. I spend a lot of money on blackfire products I don't want my paint damaged from water or rain. What is the correct approach for a daily driver black car in very hot southern Florida?

What's the Last Step Product aka LSP that's on your car now? Is is a wax/sealant/coating and if so what specific product?

Long story short, find yourself a good details spray or drying aid and use it. I find with my black vehicles owned now and in the past, the best protection against spots on a coating are to use a good detail spray / drying aid meant for coatings but the same holds true for sealed vehicles. These sprays go a long way to helping prevent exactly what you're experiencing here which isn't uncommon. Far more common when vehicles are hit with municipal water vs rain water.

Misterpaul
07-06-2019, 01:50 PM
So true! This is my last black car.
Amen to that! Never again.

AllenK
07-06-2019, 02:14 PM
I have a cousin who is over 70 years old,and he has almost always had a black vehicle. They stay spotless. I have no idea how he does it after all these years!

This time of year can be frustrating. It can be dry as a bone,but pop up an afternoon storm. Just enough to mess up your fresh detail. Or,it can be rainy as all get out

MIsnowman
07-06-2019, 02:44 PM
All of the never again comments about black vehicles crack me up. I have always had black vehicles, so I completely understand where everyone is coming from. I’ve just come to accept that it isn’t going to look perfect all of the time, but the way it looks when it’s all cleaned up makes it worth it for me. Gotta learn to take the good with the bad with black. Having said that though, my new truck drives me crazy as it seems to scratch if you look at it the wrong way. I’m planning on getting some kind of coating on it as soon as I have some free time to try to help with this. I have PA Viking Coat on my other truck and it stays much cleaner than before.

tim500
07-06-2019, 02:47 PM
All of the never again comments about black vehicles crack me up. I have always had black vehicles, so I completely understand where everyone is coming from. I’ve just come to accept that it isn’t going to look perfect all of the time, but the way it looks when it’s all cleaned up makes it worth it for me. Gotta learn to take the good with the bad with black. Having said that though, my new truck drives me crazy as it seems to scratch if you look at it the wrong way. I’m planning on getting some kind of coating on it as soon as I have some free time to try to help with this. I have PA Viking Coat on my other truck and it stays much cleaner than before.

My thing is I don’t care about it being harder to clean or looking bad when dirty. It’s permanent damage water marks scratches and swirls.

Paul A.
07-06-2019, 03:59 PM
When I ordered my BMW back in 2007 I specifically spec'ed black. I used it as my detailing doctorate thesis. I wanted THE color to hone my skills and technique. It is still my favorite color to work on but I now want something with color. Not because of upkeek, just changed my preferences.

MIsnowman
07-06-2019, 10:13 PM
My thing is I don’t care about it being harder to clean or looking bad when dirty. It’s permanent damage water marks scratches and swirls.

Yep, I totally get that. Like I said, I’m currently dealing with the scratch/swirl issue with my new truck. Never really had that problem with my other vehicles, although I know I didn’t pay as much attention as I do now.

Hopefully you find an acceptable solution.