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dlc95
03-29-2019, 10:28 PM
Full disclosure, I'm using the tools as intended from the manufacturer, with their proprietary pads and compounds. Of all the systems I have from Meguiar's, 3D, and Menzerna - on either the Flex 3401, or PC 7424, the Rupes system is typically winning in both cut, and finish. This makes for a very efficient process, saving a lot of time and energy. I've been using the two versions opposite each other since the summer of 2017. Today I was compelled to share my experiences.

The Coarse (Blue) pads:
Overall, the cut of the new pads is significantly reduced compared to the original. For example - I can compound all of the defects out of a given section completely with the original version in two, maybe three section passes. The new pads couldn't get the job done before the compound was exhausted. I eventually dialed in a process of two section cycles consisting of four section passes each. That's a total of eight passes with a pad cleaning and reloading in between compared to two or three total section passes the original pads + Zephir took. Finish was similar, cut was way off.

That was a very hard pill to swallow. Especially considering the originals aren't currently available.

The medium (yellow) pads:
Consistent with the cutting pads, defect removal was severely reduced. The original yellow pads were very effective for me in time saving one step applications. Again, defect removal could be completed in about three or four passes, excellent finish (most times. Some finishes would micromar). The new version took multiple passes, and after three section cycles, I had to switch back to the originals. I wanted to finish the job before next winter..

In conclusion, I'm definitely not a fan of these new versions. I use them on the PC a lot with M100, or M205, and they seem good in that situation, but as far as with the Zephir, and Keramik they incredibly inefficient for my situation.

Joel1979
03-30-2019, 12:35 AM
How would you rank Meguiars mf pads? Those original Rupes mf pads.were not very durable. Hopefully the new foamed mf pads will rock :)

dlc95
03-30-2019, 03:26 AM
How would you rank Meguiars mf pads? Those original Rupes mf pads.were not very durable. Hopefully the new foamed mf pads will rock :)

The megs are great, but I'd have to do a side by side using the same juice.

I agree about the durability. I scalped a good half dozen of the original cutting pads by over brushing them. Part of the problem was that I'd over work the compound - "cooking" the abrasives into the fibers. Those would be a nightmare to clean.

If Rupes is using the same microfiber materials they're currently using, with a foam interface used on their wool, it will probably reduce their cutting ability even further.

WRAPT C5Z06
03-30-2019, 04:55 PM
That’s interesting, as Jason Rose was a big part of developing the newest Rupes MF pads.


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Joel1979
03-30-2019, 05:26 PM
Yeah and those white rupes microfibers seems very similar to ones on megs microfober pads. Rupes woolpads area great though.

rlmccarty2000
03-30-2019, 06:41 PM
I used the new Rupes microfiber pads and I didn’t think they cut as fast as the Meguires microfiber pads. I really like the Rupes wool pads too.

Eldorado2k
03-30-2019, 07:11 PM
Step up to the Lake Country HDO Heavy Cut Microfiber Pads.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/95d599c81a70dd9bbf4008c786e5648e.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/d73b53360256ec0db9390553f926b04f.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/315ef29fbf8076f58b8483ee6443ffb6.jpg

They’re a clear cut above past renditions of microfiber pads because they were engineered for modern day long throw polishers. They feature a cooling chamber, fibers that don’t matt down quite like the other microfiber pads + they’re built tough and won’t delaminate, and best of all they cut like a chisel and finish down like a foam polishing pad.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/ab3919386f8808355c12441aa32f759e.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/85d7245c9cf013684446d11ce4a86250.jpg

Top of the line pads. IMO it gets no better.

6.5 inch Lake Country HDO Fiber Heavy Cutting Pad (https://www.autogeek.net/lc-hdo-fiber-6-5.html)

WRAPT C5Z06
03-31-2019, 08:53 AM
and finish down like a foam polishing pad.





I wouldn't go that far. With that light colored paint, haze isn't going to be clearly evident. Try that same combo on black paint and it won't finish like a foam polishing pad.

Eldorado2k
03-31-2019, 08:57 AM
I wouldn't go that far. With that light colored paint, haze isn't going to be clearly evident. Try that same combo on black paint and it won't finish like a foam polishing pad.

Challenge accepted. I’ve got a black car lined up this week.

WRAPT C5Z06
03-31-2019, 09:19 AM
Challenge accepted. I’ve got a black car lined up this week.
Prep wipe must be done. :)

Eldorado2k
03-31-2019, 10:01 AM
Prep wipe must be done. :)

That stipulation didn’t seem to apply to my “light colored paint”.
There’s alot of people who are quik to point towards light colored or white colored vehicles as if we or in this case I can’t spot haze just because the paint is white and I disagree with that.

That’s like saying someone could pour you a drink with some store brand whiskey & cola and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that and the good stuff because it’s mixed with cola.. You can’t hide cheap booze the same way white paint can’t hide haze... Either you know what you’re doing and achieve good results or you don’t no matter what color vehicle you’re polishing.

We can see regardless of what color the paint is.

Eldorado2k
03-31-2019, 10:04 AM
*knock on wood* lol.

Bill D
03-31-2019, 10:06 AM
Different lighting plays a role in how well you can see remaining defects. If you inspect with enough different lighting sources for enough time you can spot them no matter what color the paint is. Sometimes the inspecting is the longest part of the entire detail.

WRAPT C5Z06
03-31-2019, 10:43 AM
Either you know what you’re doing and achieve good results or you don’t no matter what color vehicle you’re polishing.


Couldn't disagree more. Haze will DEFINITELY be harder to spot on light colors as opposed to dark. Especially light metallics.

Eldorado2k
03-31-2019, 11:28 AM
Couldn't disagree more. Haze will DEFINITELY be harder to spot on light colors as opposed to dark. Especially light metallics.

Yea but it’s still visable. All it takes is a close look or proper lighting. It’s not invisible.