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bryanviper
03-14-2019, 08:24 AM
Hello,
So I'm leaning toward picking up a kit that has GTechniq EXO v4 and Crystal Serum Light. I was reading on the manufacture website and it says the following, ""Crystal Serum Light comes with a 5 year guarantee when applied by a Gtechniq Accredited Detailer""

Does anybody know what these detailers are doing to get it to last 5 years? I think I have seen online it will last 2 years so not sure whats different? Maybe I need to do 2 layers of Crystal Serum Light and a layer of GTechniq EXO EXO?

Thanks

antti@561detailing
03-14-2019, 09:23 AM
Hello,
So I'm leaning toward picking up a kit that has GTechniq EXO v4 and Crystal Serum Light. I was reading on the manufacture website and it says the following, ""Crystal Serum Light comes with a 5 year guarantee when applied by a Gtechniq Accredited Detailer""

Does anybody know what these detailers are doing to get it to last 5 years? I think I have seen online it will last 2 years so not sure whats different? Maybe I need to do 2 layers of Crystal Serum Light and a layer of GTechniq EXO EXO?

Thanks


Like everything else. it needs maintenance...I have a client with a car after 3 years csl still acts like a new install...some cars may loose some beading effect when abused, ( like 24/7 outside and not cared properly)
But you can still notice the coating on the car, shine is there and all...just beads different...and if you plan using exo,
wait 3 hours minimum between coatings ( longer wait will ensure less problems when installing exo )...Layering csl won't work, it is not designed to be layered...

BudgetPlan1
03-14-2019, 11:35 AM
I just did a vehicle w CSL x 1 and then EXOV4 x 2. Was able to do the 3 layers in less than 8hrs, following Gtechniq Instructions.

Was a joy to work with.

Very nice look...



If you are applying over CSL, EXOv4 can either be applied straight away after you have finished applying CSL starting the process at the same place you did with CSL and following the same order of panels you did with CSL, or it can be applied up to 24 hours after finishing the CSL application

(...)

Once you have finished coating your vehicle we recommend repeating the process starting from the same place as you did for the first layer and coating panels in the same order so that you coat your entire vehicle with two layers of EXOv4. You do not need to wait between applying the first and second coating but it will not make it harder to apply the second coating if you do leave a much longer interval between applying the first and second layer

bryanviper
03-14-2019, 12:57 PM
How many layers can you do of each? Could you do 2 layers of each? How long in between layers do you need to wait?

Thanks


I just did a vehicle w CSL x 1 and then EXOV4 x 2. Was able to do the 3 layers in less than 8hrs, following Gtechniq Instructions.

Was a joy to work with.

Very nice look...

The Guz
03-14-2019, 01:01 PM
How many layers can you do of each? Could you do 2 layers of each? How long in between layers do you need to wait?

Thanks

One of CSL and two with Exo.

It would last 5 years or longer in a perfect world or if it sat in the garage without being driven.

bryanviper
03-14-2019, 01:25 PM
Well I have used GEyon Pure, Cquartz UK (one layer of each) and it wont make it through my winter. So if it can last 2 years I would be more then happy anything more is just a bonus.


One of CSL and two with Exo.

It would last 5 years or longer in a perfect world or if it sat in the garage without being driven.

osiapstndp
03-14-2019, 03:16 PM
I installed one layer of CSL on one of my customer's cars about 1.5 years ago. I see it every three to four months for maintenance. The coating acts very similarly to when it was new. On infrequent occasion I'll use C2v3 on it.

The customer cleans the car only with McKee's N-914 and does not apply any toppers. The car is driven sporadically, sometimes every day for a week and other times maybe once a week, but it sees sunshine and rain. The coating hasn't fallen off or shown signs of degradation.

The Guz
03-14-2019, 03:20 PM
Well I have used GEyon Pure, Cquartz UK (one layer of each) and it wont make it through my winter. So if it can last 2 years I would be more then happy anything more is just a bonus.

Harsh environments are going to take a toll on any coating.

bryanviper
03-14-2019, 05:12 PM
Oh for sure. Im just hoping that since this is rated for up to 5 years it would be able to hold up against the elements better then the others I have used in the past to have a claim of 5 years. I guess we will see as I may give it a try.


Harsh environments are going to take a toll on any coating.

Calendyr
03-14-2019, 06:02 PM
Hello,
So I'm leaning toward picking up a kit that has GTechniq EXO v4 and Crystal Serum Light. I was reading on the manufacture website and it says the following, ""Crystal Serum Light comes with a 5 year guarantee when applied by a Gtechniq Accredited Detailer""

Does anybody know what these detailers are doing to get it to last 5 years? I think I have seen online it will last 2 years so not sure whats different? Maybe I need to do 2 layers of Crystal Serum Light and a layer of GTechniq EXO EXO?

Thanks


The way I see it is that CSL is a 5 years product but Gtechniq doesn't want to put a long warranty on a product that might be applied incorrectly by enthousists. So what accredited detailers are doing is applying it correctly. Prepping the vehicle is the most important part. They have a few criteria to accredit people which include having a garage to let the coating cure for 12 hours before giving it back to the client. If you prep the vehicle correcly and make sure it won't be exposed to water for the first 12 hours, you can expect the same durability.

Crystal Serum Light cannot be layered, it's not designed to bind to itself.

Rsurfer
03-14-2019, 06:32 PM
Harsh environments are going to take a toll on any coating.

Also bad prep work.

hoyt66
03-14-2019, 06:42 PM
"Accredited detailers" might mean they are licensed to used Crystal Serum? My understanding was Crystal Serum light is consumer grade.
That being said I've used Csl and Exo a half dozen times and love it. My daughters car is holding strong at year. Dd outside 24/7 and never washed unless I do it

bryanviper
03-14-2019, 06:56 PM
Thank you for the info, makes sense.


The way I see it is that CSL is a 5 years product but Gtechniq doesn't want to put a long warranty on a product that might be applied incorrectly by enthousists. So what accredited detailers are doing is applying it correctly. Prepping the vehicle is the most important part. They have a few criteria to accredit people which include having a garage to let the coating cure for 12 hours before giving it back to the client. If you prep the vehicle correcly and make sure it won't be exposed to water for the first 12 hours, you can expect the same durability.

Crystal Serum Light cannot be layered, it's not designed to bind to itself.

Mgavin1985
03-14-2019, 09:13 PM
Csl was one of the first coating I used it was the second easiest behind gloss coat. It will not give u great beading if that’s what your looking for u need to add Exo. Together they were great I only used v3 of Exo on thing about csl is it really added the most swirl resistance of any coating I used. It also applies differently it has it own flash style. I like it but for most cost effective and great beading cquk doing it yearly with a swirl remove is what I have settled on. Either one is good but u may want to add Exo then it’s over twice as much as cquk with only slightly better beading out of Exo over uk. It would be interesting to hear from someone that had csl on for over two years most DIY guy can’t stop touching there cars and strip and try new coating every 1-2 years.

bolts
01-15-2020, 01:59 PM
bump this anyone with csl only on their car how is the slickness holding up?