Need Your Opinion on an AIO or 1-Step

[geoguy]

Hey Guys,

Looking to do some family and friends cars when the weather gets nicer. These would all be daily drivers with varying degrees of swirls and scratches. I started thinking about doing an AIO for these, but then was thinking of maybe a 1-step since an LSP wouldn't take to long. Longer LSP durability and better correction with the dedicated polish, but a little more time.

Depending on which way you would go what would be your top pick or two for and AIO and polish for a 1-step?

So far I am thinking (in no particular order):

AIO:
Blackfire One Step
McKee's 37 360
Griot Garage BOSS Finish Sealant

Polish for 1-step:
Griots Garage Perfecting Cream
Optimum Hyper Polish

[WaxMaster1]

Friend=Freebie=AIO

[LSNAutoDetailing]

Your list looks good, add HD Speed to that.

[minerigger]

D151, D166, or 360 if looking for one with good cut. Speed if your after speed, slickness and gloss as I’ve not had it do much if anything correction wise


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[Busy mind]

I liked the sample of BF One Step that I used a few months ago. I was pleased with the correction. Are you charging them for the service or just getting the experience? If you're giving them a deal, I would front load them on expectations and explain what you're going to do. Perhaps down the line, they'll come back for a more intense detail.
So my opinion is the BF One Step and mist the panel with a spray sealant on wipe off to help save time and give a bit more protection.

[392hemi]

Friend=Freebie=AIO

This.

I have done this before and will do again for family and some friends. Most go through the swirlomatic car washes or the horrible marring express hand wash places.

I've stopped wasting time and effort for it to be undone a couple days later.

I'm actually debating doing an AIO like HD speed/Megs/Griots and then possibly a spray and rinse Si02. Or I'll do a one step polish and a wax/sealant on top.

[SWETM]

All comes down to the expectations you and your friends has on the polishing work. IMO it's with AIO and one step correction is that you get the shine and gloss and live with the defects left on the paint. A 2 step correction you can dial in the correction almost defect free depending on what you start with on the levels of defects. Then you have the difference between the amount of defects and the difference between the paints hardness and so on that will have a bigger impact on the defect removal when AIO or one step correction is done. And also the budget on the polishes.

I don't use the AIO from AGO cause of the it's not available in Sweden where I live. So uses some different ones but I have some products that I would be very interesting to test out from here. If not the budget is a problem I would test this AIO out 3D AAT 505 Correction Glaze. And the Blackfire One Step Finish AIO is also interesting. With the 3D AAT 505 you have 3D Speed with a much higher abrasive amount in it and no silicone. With AIO that is mostly the problem that the amount of abrasives is lower than the amount in regualar polishes and also in the cheaper OTC ones lower quality of the abrasives. AAT 505 has the montan wax in it but no else of protection that Speed has beside the montan wax. So the longevity can be lower than Speed but the correction would be on par with a regualar polish. Another combo that a friend of mine has used with success is SONAX Hybrid NPT Paint Cleaner and SONAX NanoTechnology Liquid Wax. This I would go with on those that still will be driving through the swirlomatic car wash or is careless with the their wash methods. It's strong to hide swirls as in filling them and above 3months longevity from it. You will be getting some correction but a heads up that the finish you get can be illusion from what it is.

3D AAT 505 Correction Glaze 8 oz. (https://www.autogeek.net/8oz-3d-aat-505-correction-glaze.html)

SONAX Paint Cleaner, sonax prewax cleaner, sonax car polish, sonax cleaner polish (https://www.autogeek.net/sonax-paint-cleaner.html)

SONAX NanoTechnology Liquid Wax, sonax liquid car wax, car wax sealant, wax protectant, auto wax (https://www.autogeek.net/sonax-nano-liquid-wax.html)

On the polishes you have some good ones in your list. I would add 3D One in the mix and something like Carpro Reflect or Sonax Perfect Finish or EX 04-06. On some harder paints even Menzerna HC400 or Menzerna PF2200 or PF2500. Griots BOSS Fast Correcting Cream and Correcting Cream is known to be finish great on medium to hard paints. Carpro and Sonax mentioned above is great to one step it on softer paints but do also great on harder paints as well.

And then you have the pads used to get as much of cut as possible and still finish great. On medium to hard paints and as much of cut as possible I like the Sonax Red DA Hard Cutting pad and Meguiars Maroon cutting pad. And on softer paints and medium I think it's a must to have the Rupes yellow foam pad.
I would be very interesting to know if someone has tested the Rupes Mille yellow foam pad on a 8mm free spinning DA polisher. As the standard yellow pad can be a little to thick on them polishers.

There are some thoughts on it from me. But most every abrasive technology here on AGO I think is great so just to find what suits your needs. Then it's important to have a range of pads that you can tune in on the test spots. Since you are going to be working on different paints it's hard to get satisfied with only 2 different pads. But again that's about the expectations you have on the work you doing.

/ Tony

[Mike Phillips]

For doing freebies....

Stick with an AIO

I cover this topic in my detailing classes. Here's the nutshell version.

Most people don't appreciate anything given to them for free. I said "most", not all. Next, if there car needs to be detailed, that is it's in neglected condition.... ask yourself why? In most cases, most people view their car as transportation, not an extension of their personality and as such they let it go because it's simply not that important. Nothing wrong with this but just keep it in mind as you give away your time, energy and resources.

Now sometimes.... people change and for whatever reason, now they CARE. When this is the case, it's cool to help out family and friends and detail their car because then they will tend to both appreciate your hard work and follow-up by taking are of the results. I recommend getting them to help you if they are physically capable.

I go deep in my classes but the above is the nutshell version.

As for an AIO - BF One-Step all the way. Great correction, easy to buff and wipe-off super easy. As you work around a car you will learn how much you love easy wipe off. Spend the coin, get a quart and someday come back and re-visit this thread and thank me.


:)

[PBoy]

I currently use DG 501 but am considering giving the new Meg's 3 in 1 a try :)

[Vegas Transplant]

Big fan of Optimum. I Certainly do not recommend a finishing polish such as Hyperpolish on daily drivers as you mentioned. Gonna stack up the time spent on vehicle with little to show for the effort.

[Kamakaz1961]

Friends = AIO. I like Megs D166. MY POINT...most of your friends probably do not take care of their ride like we do and it's only a matter of time they will cause the same swirls. I know from 1st hand experience! I work on my friends car for free and I have fun doing it. JUST THE FACT you are working on their car is really cool to them. KEEP ON ROCKING!

[dlc95]

For those favors I try and use up all my old cleaner waxes.

[Kamakaz1961]

For those favors I try and use up all my old cleaner waxes.

LMAO! You just revealed my secret! Or I want to try a new product or a new technique and they are the Guinea Pig!.....LOL!!! KEEP ON ROCKING!

[Eldorado2k]

LMAO! You just revealed my secret! Or I want to try a new product or a new technique and they are the Guinea Pig!.....LOL!!! KEEP ON ROCKING!

My neighbor from across the street is my #1 guinea pig. That’s why there’s times where what should take 1.5hrs. turns into a much longer ordeal. I get to test, and she gets free benefits. Lol.

Sometimes I’ll see her outside and say “hey you need your car washed”? Inside my head I’m thinking “I’ve got some new stuff I want to try out” lol.

[MoBenzOwner]

Duragloss 101 is another good AIO I'll add to the list.