Mike Phillips
12-28-2018, 10:19 AM
Category 12 - Past the point of no return by Mike Phillips (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions-/121858-catagory-12-past-point-no-return-mike-phillips.html)
When I wrote the "The Complete Guide to a Show Car Shine", there was NEW content, new ideas, new terms that evolved out of the writing process. I invented things that did not exist to educate people interested in car detailing. One of those things was categories of paint condition. Or in the book, it's called Paint Condition Categories and you'll find it from pages 30 to 36. This is the liberty you have when you take it upon yourself to write an article and anyone can do this... all you have to do is have confidence in yourself, your knowledge base and even skill level. I see a LOT of people throw around their opinions.... try writing a book about your opinions. :laughing:
In the book, The Complete Guide to a Show Car Shine, one of the categories is called,
#12 Past the point of no return
Paint in this condition falls into one of the above categories, but is so far gone that nothing you pour out of a bottle or scoop out of a can from ANY company will fix it.
Yesterday on the Autogeek Detailing 101 Facebook Group a member shared a picture of their antique 1959 Hillman Minx and asked how to restore the original paint? This turned into a healthy discussion on the right way to go about doing this type of work and this then turned into an argument over the value of using Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze to restore paint.
Here's the link to the discussion on the D101 FB Group.
How to restore the paint on a 1959 Hillman Minx (https://www.facebook.com/groups/AutogeekDetailing101/permalink/1376267645841836/)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/Hillman.jpg
After looking at the paint on this car, just from the above picture of course, to me it looks like it's very possible that the paint on this car is in paint condition 12 and that is,
Past the point of no return
That is, nothing you scoop out of a can, (old school rubbing compound or polish), or pour out of a bottle, (modern compounds and polishes), is going to undo the years or decades of neglected and create an acceptable looking finish. Not even Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze.
Of course, a person won't know what they can do until they try and I have personally restored a LOT of antique single stage paint in my life and helped hundreds of others do the same.
I created this thread and have sent the link to the guy that owns the above car and started the thread about fixing the paint the link to this thread because I want him to have REAL-WORLD expectations. AND because I WROTE A BOOK about car detailing and came up with the 12 Categories of Paint Condition - there is a precedent or a guide that has existed since the first printing of this book that calls out and defines cars and paint in various conditions. It's not like this is a NEW THING. But I don't know if the guy that started this thread knows about the book, the chapter on paint condition categories or anything as I do not know him.
Here's the book....
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/no_return_01.jpg
Here's pages 38 and 39
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/no_return_02.jpg
And in the lower right hand corner, here's the blurb about paint condition 12 - Past the point of no return
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/no_return_03.jpg
Me?
I would do a Test Spot. See my article here,
Test Spot - The story behind the story... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24043-test-spot-story-behind-term.html)
:)
When I wrote the "The Complete Guide to a Show Car Shine", there was NEW content, new ideas, new terms that evolved out of the writing process. I invented things that did not exist to educate people interested in car detailing. One of those things was categories of paint condition. Or in the book, it's called Paint Condition Categories and you'll find it from pages 30 to 36. This is the liberty you have when you take it upon yourself to write an article and anyone can do this... all you have to do is have confidence in yourself, your knowledge base and even skill level. I see a LOT of people throw around their opinions.... try writing a book about your opinions. :laughing:
In the book, The Complete Guide to a Show Car Shine, one of the categories is called,
#12 Past the point of no return
Paint in this condition falls into one of the above categories, but is so far gone that nothing you pour out of a bottle or scoop out of a can from ANY company will fix it.
Yesterday on the Autogeek Detailing 101 Facebook Group a member shared a picture of their antique 1959 Hillman Minx and asked how to restore the original paint? This turned into a healthy discussion on the right way to go about doing this type of work and this then turned into an argument over the value of using Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze to restore paint.
Here's the link to the discussion on the D101 FB Group.
How to restore the paint on a 1959 Hillman Minx (https://www.facebook.com/groups/AutogeekDetailing101/permalink/1376267645841836/)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/Hillman.jpg
After looking at the paint on this car, just from the above picture of course, to me it looks like it's very possible that the paint on this car is in paint condition 12 and that is,
Past the point of no return
That is, nothing you scoop out of a can, (old school rubbing compound or polish), or pour out of a bottle, (modern compounds and polishes), is going to undo the years or decades of neglected and create an acceptable looking finish. Not even Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze.
Of course, a person won't know what they can do until they try and I have personally restored a LOT of antique single stage paint in my life and helped hundreds of others do the same.
I created this thread and have sent the link to the guy that owns the above car and started the thread about fixing the paint the link to this thread because I want him to have REAL-WORLD expectations. AND because I WROTE A BOOK about car detailing and came up with the 12 Categories of Paint Condition - there is a precedent or a guide that has existed since the first printing of this book that calls out and defines cars and paint in various conditions. It's not like this is a NEW THING. But I don't know if the guy that started this thread knows about the book, the chapter on paint condition categories or anything as I do not know him.
Here's the book....
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/no_return_01.jpg
Here's pages 38 and 39
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/no_return_02.jpg
And in the lower right hand corner, here's the blurb about paint condition 12 - Past the point of no return
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/no_return_03.jpg
Me?
I would do a Test Spot. See my article here,
Test Spot - The story behind the story... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24043-test-spot-story-behind-term.html)
:)