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Eldorado2k
12-16-2018, 05:53 PM
How often do you run into some wheels where you’re better off leaving the barrels untouched and caked, because you know that if you decide to do them you might wind up with a variety of negative outcomes...

Have you ever run into wheels that present that sort of situation? If so, post your thoughts.

Setec Astronomy
12-16-2018, 05:56 PM
Yeah, wheels where the barrels aren't painted and they are just all rough and etched already...it's almost not worth doing anything because the improvement is almost non-existent and a short time later they will be back to the way they started.

Eldorado2k
12-16-2018, 06:06 PM
Yeah, wheels where the barrels aren't painted and they are just all rough and etched already...it's almost not worth doing anything because the improvement is almost non-existent and a short time later they will be back to the way they started.

Yes... That’s definitely 1 of the instances.

Eldorado2k
12-16-2018, 06:24 PM
I’m debating on whether or not I should remove my wheels and fully clean the barrels. So far I haven’t touched the barrels at all and the only way to get em right would be wheels off.

But these are those types of barrels... They’re grooved, they’re rough, they’re caked, and even when they’re as clean as I could possibly get them they’re not going to be perfect and top it off they’re bearly going to be visible.
These wheels are borderline better off leaving them caked because at least they look black inside and give contrast.

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But part of me is still itching to remove the wheels and clean them. Lol. What would you do?

gspam1
12-16-2018, 06:54 PM
With my most recent vehicle, I deliberately bought the cheap steel wheels because they came with plastic wheel covers that hide the wheel barrels. No more scrubbing the barrels for me. My wheel covers show a bit less of the barrel than your picture above. I pulled the hub caps off when new, coated them, and wheel cleaning is a breeze. I'll never buy nice wheels again. Plus, I'm old and the wheels always seem to be at the bottom of the car and hard to reach :) So I wouldn't touch them.

minerigger
12-16-2018, 06:55 PM
Remove them, clean them, sand/buff them to high shine and seal them. That's what I would do anyways if they were my off a personal vehicle

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Eldorado2k
12-16-2018, 07:02 PM
Remove them, clean them, sand/buff them to high shine and seal them. That's what I would do anyways if they were my off a personal vehicle

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But they’re machine grooved.. I don’t think any amount of sanding is going to remove those metal grooves in the barrels. And I don’t think they’d polish out to a high shine even if they were brand new. They were never chrome like the face of the wheel.

Eldorado2k
12-16-2018, 07:06 PM
This is what the barrels look like when new.

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Bill D
12-16-2018, 07:53 PM
If you drive the car daily it might be awfully tough to keep the barrels clean due to the design of that particular wheel but I fully understand the itch to want to take them off and give them a complete detail job. Just as long as it’s still something fun for you to do. Don’t feel obligated to do them if it becomes anything more than that. That’s the curse of detailing.

Eldorado2k
12-16-2018, 07:58 PM
If you drive the car daily it might be awfully tough to keep the barrels clean due to the design of that particular wheel but I fully understand the itch to want to take them off and give them a complete detail job. Just as long as it’s still something fun for you to do. Don’t feel obligated to do them if it becomes anything more than that. That’s the curse of detailing.

Yes yes I completely agree. You know how these wheels are... Very similar type of wheels on my Seville, and I actually cleaned 1 of those wheels perfectly clean once [actually it was far from perfect, but I got it clean] while it was off to replace the tire... Put it back on and I swear I couldn’t tell the dirty 1 from the clean. Lol.

These have a bit of a wider opening, but the more I think about it I’ll probably just leave them be. The bad outweighs the good. Thanks to everyone for posting.[emoji106][emoji2534]

Bill D
12-16-2018, 08:06 PM
Glad to see you are level headed about it!

rlmccarty2000
12-16-2018, 08:23 PM
I’m with you, just leave them alone.

Calendyr
12-16-2018, 09:27 PM
If the barrel are hidden, I see no reason to clean them. If they are visible, then I think it's important to clean them.

Setec Astronomy
12-16-2018, 09:59 PM
Eldo, since you use Meg's Wheel Bright that should be a fairly touchless process and would be worth doing because it's not much work.

I had to laugh at that picture of the new wheel, because if that wheel had been on even a new a car, it would be all stained just from driving it on and off the transport vehicles and around the dealer lot. When I was telling my story about the Buick dealer a couple weeks ago, I was quite interested to see on one of the vehicles in the showroom, I think it was the...what is the convertible? The apparently come with plastic shrouds over the rotors, because they had accidentally left on one--I guess that's to keep the brake dust off during what I described above...obviously not if you're going to drive it at speed.

Why GM can't paint the barrels on a Cadillac is beyond me...but that's what we were talking about GM being cheap in that era. I'm sure the barrels on your Kia are painted.

Eldorado2k
12-17-2018, 03:38 AM
Eldo, since you use Meg's Wheel Bright that should be a fairly touchless process and would be worth doing because it's not much work.

I had to laugh at that picture of the new wheel, because if that wheel had been on even a new a car, it would be all stained just from driving it on and off the transport vehicles and around the dealer lot. When I was telling my story about the Buick dealer a couple weeks ago, I was quite interested to see on one of the vehicles in the showroom, I think it was the...what is the convertible? The apparently come with plastic shrouds over the rotors, because they had accidentally left on one--I guess that's to keep the brake dust off during what I described above...obviously not if you're going to drive it at speed.

Why GM can't paint the barrels on a Cadillac is beyond me...but that's what we were talking about GM being cheap in that era. I'm sure the barrels on your Kia are painted.

IME Wheel Brightener can’t handle that task.. Even with the wheels off it usually can’t. And if you try it with the wheels on its a complete fail. Even Brown Royal requires some work to clean these type of barrels with the wheels on the vehicle, but it can do it whereas Wheel Brightener cannot.

I tried Wheel Brightener on the barrels of my Seville [which are the same as these new wheels] WB couldn’t even begin to clean the barrels.

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The wheels on my fathers Tacoma have these type of barrels and Wheel Brightener couldn’t touch them either... I was able to get them about 85-90% clean with Brown Royal without removing the wheels but it took alot of work to try to get in there with the wheel brushes. Alot of work!

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And once they’re clean they’re not smooth, so it’s a PITA to maintain them clean. I personally gave up trying to keep those barrels clean.

On smooth barrels that are caked, baked and removed from the vehicle, Brown Royal cuts through it...

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Like a hot knife through butter. Spray, quik scrub, perfectly clean.

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WB is great for maintenance cleaning, but when it comes to caked & baked, it usually fails.

Yea, the wheels on the Kia are painted. I think it’s more of the way some wheels were made in those years. These days just about every OEM wheel has painted barrels, they’re also the same bland gray anodized color which is also cheaper for them to produce vs. chrome wheels. I think these modern wheels are also alot lighter.

So I wouldn’t necessarily call them cheap on this 1.