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Cruzscarwash
12-03-2018, 03:39 PM
So as many of you know I I'm mobile and live in the middle of the hot SoCal desert. Over this past year I've exclusively only offered mobile polishing and coating at an affordable price point and gave up basic detail offerings. Needless to say I've had a much to my surprise very successful year, one of my highest actually.

So to my main point, I have been using McKees paint coating with great success in direct sunlight and high heat (over 100°) and it's been awesome. This upcoming year I want to step it up and offer a higher tier coating, of course again I work outside so that's where youy detailing family comes into play. What coatings have you used that have done well outside in the direct light would you recommend??

MikeC78
12-03-2018, 03:42 PM
Why not just keep the same one if you're having good luck? IMO, if you'd like to offer a more expensive option, look into the pro versions, such as Carpro or something alike?

Cruzscarwash
12-03-2018, 04:11 PM
That's what I'm asking, but need experience from others who have had experience in direct sunlight, buying, testing and time are all things I don't have a lot of so spending more time and money to get even more products to see IF they work I'm trying to minimize.if some has used a higher end product and has had success that's what I'm asking

MikeC78
12-03-2018, 04:21 PM
Ahhh, sorry... I thought you meant to replace Mckee's. Again, my apologies...

The Guz
12-03-2018, 06:45 PM
I am not sure if you are going to find many that claim to be applied in direct sun. Gloss Coat may be one but I didn't find it that durable or long lasting and I am a couple hours from you. Perhaps something that requires one coat like Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light. Cquartz may work as well and you could get by with one solid coat.

rlmccarty2000
12-03-2018, 11:37 PM
In the heat here in the South CarPro coatings flash very quickly. I avoid applying them in 90+ temps. Humidity matters too though and I have both heat and high humidity. It would be best for you to buy some and test it out.

cwp2016nd
12-04-2018, 04:01 PM
Perhaps use a pop-up tent to block most of the sun and use a product (mentioned earlier) like Gtechniq's CSL? It's super easy to apply and remove, plus it only requires one layer. Better longevity than something like Carpro as well.

Cruzscarwash
12-05-2018, 04:24 AM
So there is zero option for a pop up or any shade, it can only be a direct sunlight application. I've tried it all and because of the high desert winds I've had multiple pop ups, even expensive ones with thick tubing bend and snap from the high winds and almost damage brand new 80k cars. So I'm. So im not taking the risk

ifadey
12-05-2018, 05:14 AM
@Cruzcarwash Since you apply the coating outdoor, did you ever faced any issue related to dirt getting into applied coating? I am a wax/sealant guy but I stayed away from coatings only because I don't have a garage.

grovlet
12-05-2018, 10:00 AM
Since you seem to have a accepted plan now - I would change ideals.... IF a customer wants a higher end product - you need to explain the issue with doing it in the open - and force them to:
1) Come to you in your enclosed environment of choice (I assume you have a garage or shop available to do indoor applications)
2) Have them provide a garage or enclosed space

If you have customers that will see the added value - I assume they would understand the constraints here - also they most likely have more money - and are likely to have a garage you may be able to use.

I'm actually surprised any coating works well in those conditions - but luckily you've found one - stick to it since it works....

jkrig
12-05-2018, 11:42 AM
I'd second the recommendation from Guz, Gloss Coat would probably be fine as its so easy to apply but as he said its not really a step up in terms of durability, CSL or CSL + EXO is a good choice for 1) easy to apply 2) should be about as durable as you can get without the commitment of having to go "pro" and not have the added pressure to maintain an account/partnership with a specific manufacturer....unless your business can support it of course.

Cruzscarwash
12-06-2018, 07:37 PM
No I have not and I've been doing them in a new environment this last month than I'm used to and still no issues. I actually flew to Guam (high heat and high humidity and have still had no issues with it. I'm of course used to the high temps and no humidity situation with lots of dust.

Here's a look at the conditions I've been in this month, a few have had cover but the really only problem is that I have to swap pads more often as they saturate much faster now
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DaveT435
12-10-2018, 04:01 PM
Since you seem to have a accepted plan now - I would change ideals.... IF a customer wants a higher end product - you need to explain the issue with doing it in the open - and force them to:
1) Come to you in your enclosed environment of choice (I assume you have a garage or shop available to do indoor applications)
2) Have them provide a garage or enclosed space

If you have customers that will see the added value - I assume they would understand the constraints here - also they most likely have more money - and are likely to have a garage you may be able to use.

I'm actually surprised any coating works well in those conditions - but luckily you've found one - stick to it since it works....

This is definitely a good option. I'm friends with a local who did about 75% of his coatings in the customers garage.

Cruzscarwash
12-10-2018, 04:08 PM
I'm actually looking at even getting/making a mobile IR light set up. I'm gonna make it happen this year
This is definitely a good option. I'm friends with a local who did about 75% of his coatings in the customers garage.

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