Megs ULW & UFF - Tips for application

[JMak97008]

Preparing to give my 2006 300c SRT8 (black) it's winter protection. I'll be washing, iron-x'ing, claying, and then spot treating with Megs UC, run Megs UP over her, and then....well that's the question.

My inclination is to apply ULW, wipe off, then apply UFF the next day. But, UFF being a sealant (as is ULW, I think), it seems I should apply UFF first and then apply ULW.

Appreciate you tips or advice here...

Oh, also, can I apply ULW to the whole car at once and then come back and wipe off or should apply to a panel and then wipe off a few minutes later? Been wondering about this....

Thanks in advance.

[The Guz]

Over on the Meguiar's forum Nick mentioned ULW followed by UFF. According to Nick doing so won't impact the longevity of UFF.

ULW can be applied to the entire vehicle or you can work panel by panel. It is completely up to you.

[JMak97008]

Over on the Meguiar's forum Nick mentioned ULW followed by UFF. According to Nick doing so won't impact the longevity of UFF.

ULW can be applied to the entire vehicle or you can work panel by panel. It is completely up to you.

Will the current ULW formula haze or should I be doing a swipe test to determine if it's ready to come off? Or is it simple enough that I can just leave ULW on for as long as like before removing?

[The Guz]

ULW does not haze like a typical wax or sealant. It never has.

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[Dr Oldz]

If you want a tip, I suggest you pick something more durable for a winter wax. Megs makes some great products but their waxes and sealants truly lack longevity IME.

[The Guz]

I forgot to mention that ULW was reformulated over a year ago to be more durable.

[JMak97008]

If you want a tip, I suggest you pick something more durable for a winter wax. Megs makes some great products but their waxes and sealants truly lack longevity IME.

It seems to me that most of these products, except for the very expensive ceramic stuff,wax/sealant durability is about the same anyway. But I live in the Portland, OR region where we get a lot of rain, so I stop with stuff like Megs and Griots.

[Dr Oldz]

It seems to me that most of these products, except for the very expensive ceramic stuff,wax/sealant durability is about the same anyway. But I live in the Portland, OR region where we get a lot of rain, so I stop with stuff like Megs and Griots.

Try Collinite 845 or 476. Finish Kare 1000 is another cheap product. All of these have really solid durability.

[minerigger]

915 is another but I did 2 coats of UFF and it was doing great at 4 months

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[tcope]

First, I have about 10 bottles of UFF and I like the stuff. The price has dropped on Amazon to $8.64 and Walmart was getting rid of their stock at $6.00. Both of these are great prices for a bottle. I also highly recommend ULW as it can easily be bought, applied some some direct light and wipes right off plastic and rubber. So I like both of these products.

However, UFF has always confused me. To me, it seems to be another fast synthetic sealant that does not need to be removed, like Opti-Seal. But my research has shown that you apply a synthetic sealant to the paint and then layer a good carnuba wax over it. This was because the sealant chemically bonds to the paint and a carnauba wax can be applied on top without the sealant rubbing off. But Megs states that UFF can be applied this way but also on top of a wax. I'm not sure how/why it would bond to a wax. I'm not convinced that it would not remove the wax when it is applied. I feel a little better about applying something like Meguiars D156 Synthetic X-press Spray Wax over wax.

But winter is a different animal. It is not easy always easy to apply a wax. So I will use UFF when I get a wash in as it is easy and quick to apply. I'd rather use UFF on wheels as it only needs one step to apply and I think it lasts longer then a normal wax.

Personally, using the product you mentioned, I'd apply ULW and then touch it up every month with UFF. I'd rather use a good synthetic sealant over the winter then a wax if that was all I'd be using.

[tcope]

915 is another but I did 2 coats of UFF and it was doing great at 4 months
Two applications, not two coats.

[JMak97008]

First, I have about 10 bottles of UFF and I like the stuff. The price has dropped on Amazon to $8.64 and Walmart was getting rid of their stock at $6.00. Both of these are great prices for a bottle. I also highly recommend ULW as it can easily be bought, applied some some direct light and wipes right off plastic and rubber. So I like both of these products.

However, UFF has always confused me. To me, it seems to be another fast synthetic sealant that does not need to be removed, like Opti-Seal. But my research has shown that you apply a synthetic sealant to the paint and then layer a good carnuba wax over it. This was because the sealant chemically bonds to the paint and a carnauba wax can be applied on top without the sealant rubbing off. But Megs states that UFF can be applied this way but also on top of a wax. I'm not sure how/why it would bond to a wax. I'm not convinced that it would not remove the wax when it is applied. I feel a little better about applying something like Meguiars D156 Synthetic X-press Spray Wax over wax.

But winter is a different animal. It is not easy always easy to apply a wax. So I will use UFF when I get a wash in as it is easy and quick to apply. I'd rather use UFF on wheels as it only needs one step to apply and I think it lasts longer then a normal wax.

Personally, using the product you mentioned, I'd apply ULW and then touch it up every month with UFF. I'd rather use a good synthetic sealant over the winter then a wax if that was all I'd be using.

That's a great point about bonding to the paint and a point that has had me confused.

I'm going to apply UFF to clean paint, allow to dry for 24 hours, and then apply UWW by hand (thinking the machine may somehow affect the UFF).

[minerigger]

Two applications, not two coats.Coat/applications

Potatoe/potato

Think they get the idea

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[The Guz]

That's a great point about bonding to the paint and a point that has had me confused.

I'm going to apply UFF to clean paint, allow to dry for 24 hours, and then apply UWW by hand (thinking the machine may somehow affect the UFF).

Enjoy the reading.

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[AZpolisher15]

Ultimate Liquid Wax is a sealant, not a Wax. I'd apply it and then top with Fast Finish. My two cents.