Topper for speed

[Rambro]

What are you guys topping speed with other than proxy? Does Wolfgang dgps play well with speed?

[acuRAS82]

This has been debated. WGDGPS is one of those that some have stated does not last on Speed. Others have claimed/tested that most sealants done last... but others have had very good success with sealants on top.

Most claims for Collinite 845, and probably other waxes, do last as expected.

[AllenK]

What if you went over the Speed with IPA or some other sort of surface prep?? HD Poxy would be the most logical choice,but I have read mixed reviews about it's durability as well.

[acuRAS82]

I tried that, using WG Paint Prep Spray over Speed 4 days later, then applying PBL Sealant on top. No noticeable depreciation of the Sealant after 1 month, but then I started messing around with various toppers sprays, so I can’t state that the PBL Sealant alone is still going strong at 2 months, but the car still looks great and is beading great and at no point did I have any reason to believe the sealant or any toppers have been degraded due to Speed underneath

[acuRAS82]

I probably should have mentioned the above in my first response, but I forgot about it until you mentioned IPA. If I had to guess, I would say that the Speed has not had a negative impact on the sealant. It’s not conclusive, but it’s my best hunch.

[Rambro]

I have used poxy over speed on black and had some hazing. I will try the IPA, I am looking for longevity after using an AIO for light swirls and lightly faded paint on most of my customers daily drivers. (speed, blackfire, McKees and klasse is what I have now)

[AllenK]

I probably should have mentioned the above in my first response, but I forgot about it until you mentioned IPA. If I had to guess, I would say that the Speed has not had a negative impact on the sealant. It’s not conclusive, but it’s my best hunch.

Well,as with anything,results may vary. I have found that very true in regards to detailing. I am glad that I saw WGDGPS does not play well with Speed. I had debated trying that combo.

[Pats300zx]

HD Proxy is an excellent topper for Speed !!!

[PaulMys]

If you were going to use WG Deep Gloss, I would just use HD Polish+, or any pure polish.


As for Speed toppers, 845 is great. 476s is even better.

[damaged442]

I too top Speed with 845/476/915 with good results.

[dlc95]

I have a weird tick where I don't like topping cleaner waxes with anything but a spray on.

Megs Ultimate Quik Wax, or Duragloss Aquawax would be great for that.

[ducksfan]

Megs Ultimate Quik Wax, or Duragloss Aquawax would be great for that.

From my experience with using those two products, Sonax PNS or BSD might be better.

[dlc95]

From my experience with using those two products, Sonax PNS or BSD might be better.

Possibly. I've never used any Sonax products, so I have no real world experience with them.

[Paul A.]

I am still a big believer in staying within the family. I know you said "other than Poxy" but I would still want to extend the LSP characteristic of an AIO with the LSP they actually use in the formulation. If I wanted to test compatability with another LSP of an unknown or less agreeable product I would use a dedicated polish to split out the specifics of "cleaner/mild abrasive" and "LSP" for durability.

[Rambro]

If I use menzerna polish should I wipe it down with IPA before wgdgps? Does the oils in the polish affect sealant adhesion ?