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MrOneEyedBoh
07-25-2018, 04:52 PM
I have my truck coated in McKees 37 coating, v2. I know if you cover the coating you're masking its benefits etc. But honestly, I used the coating to give scratch resistance more than anything. No matter what you use the vehicle will look better, just some things will help the clear coat more than others.

So with that being said and being that the truck is coated in McKees coating, Im wondering this. If I coat it in a carnuba will it still give that carnuba glow? Carnuba looks good on my truck since its a dark blue.... And like many here we cant NOT touch the paint with something...

At first I was paranoid about a wax degrading the coating since the waxes are still chemicals and they would or could degrade the coating over time. Im not sure if it would happen or not tho...


Has anyone threw a wax over a coating and gotten that glow Im after? Im okay with the glassy look, but love that glow aurora you can get from 'nubas.

Eldorado2k
07-25-2018, 05:36 PM
Not trying to be a smart arse.. You should tape your hood down the middle and wax 1 side. Provide us with a detailed update including pics to see if there’s a visible difference and also provide us with the info on how you see the coating behave and if it survives being topped with a dedicated layer of wax. I for 1 would be interested in your results.

MrOneEyedBoh
07-25-2018, 07:21 PM
True but I honestly don't daily drive it so I won't have real world usage other than baking in the sun lol

Eldorado2k
07-25-2018, 07:40 PM
True but I honestly don't daily drive it so I won't have real world usage other than baking in the sun lol

They say baking in the sun melts carnauba wax and causes it to evaporate, so even more good reason for you to test it.

The Guz
07-25-2018, 08:49 PM
I don't wax any coating but I have seen others do it. If you feel the need to then by all means go for it. A wax will not degrade a coating unless its an abrasive cleaner wax.

By the way don't by too much into the anti scratch claim of any coating. They are not impervious. They do help with wash induced marring though.

Calendyr
07-25-2018, 11:04 PM
If you wax a coated car, you will loose the properties of the coating and gain those of the wax while the wax is sitting on top of the coating.

So that usually means:
- More depth of color
- More glow to the paint

- Paint will not be as hydrophobic
- Paint will not be as reflective
- Paint will be much easier to get dirty
- Paint will be harder to clean

So if you are ok with all this, there is no problem waxing a coated car. As others have mentionned, just make sure it's finishing wax, not a cleaner wax.

MrOneEyedBoh
07-26-2018, 04:13 AM
Appreciate it. I would coat it with FK great white wax/sealant, which is more sealant like. Or collinite, WDGPS etc. So basically a sealant. Although I have some super soft WOWO waxes like SSII, Fuzion etc.

I do want to try out that Megs HiTech yellow wax I have here... I heard it looks crazy good, just doesn't last

SWETM
07-26-2018, 04:27 AM
Wonder if you getting any more glow carnuaba gloss from a sealant. I don't think that is the case. Do you like the looks of the sealant you are going to use then go for it. The properties of the sealant is what you get in combo with the coating looks wise. If you where to apply a real carnuaba wax or carnuaba hybrid. You would gain in the carnuaba glow and the coating looks. Something like Collinite 915 would be an interesting choice to see how it looks. It's the coating behavior that will suffer till the wax or sealant is completly gone.

Hatchman
07-26-2018, 06:09 AM
I agree that a wax on top of the coating will not hurt it, unless it is a cleaner wax. Also agree that the wax will attract dirt/dust and be harder to clean. Also, the wax is not going to last, especially if it is out in the hot sun and then a rain shower hits it while it is hot. The slick properties of the coating is going to help the wax to wash right off.

Question: Can you put another layer of coating over the current layer of coating to help deepen the shine? Any problems associated with layering coating? I've never done it, always just done one coat and so far haven't had to re-coat, but wondering if I should add another layer of coating, or "boost" the coating with something else?

showbbq
07-26-2018, 07:21 AM
I agree that a wax on top of the coating will not hurt it, unless it is a cleaner wax. Also agree that the wax will attract dirt/dust and be harder to clean. Also, the wax is not going to last, especially if it is out in the hot sun and then a rain shower hits it while it is hot. The slick properties of the coating is going to help the wax to wash right off.

Question: Can you put another layer of coating over the current layer of coating to help deepen the shine? Any problems associated with layering coating? I've never done it, always just done one coat and so far haven't had to re-coat, but wondering if I should add another layer of coating, or "boost" the coating with something else?

You can add a topper product like Reload or Polish Angel. Both can found in the AG store. Great for folks who like doing something to the paint and they're supposed to increase the longevity of your coating.

Desertnate
07-26-2018, 07:28 AM
I don't wax any coating but I have seen others do it. If you feel the need to then by all means go for it. A wax will not degrade a coating unless its an abrasive cleaner wax.

By the way don't by too much into the anti scratch claim of any coating. They are not impervious. They do help with wash induced marring though.

Agree on all counts, espicially the scratch resistance. If that propertly was the only reason you applied the coating, you'll be disapointed. I also see a wax defeating the self cleaning-like properties of a coating. Dust and pollen will cling to the surface far more than a "naked" coating and actually drive you to clean it more often.

If you seeking a particular look with a wax and the car isn't a daily, the best approach probably should have been to skip the coating.

DBAILEY
07-26-2018, 08:50 AM
How about a coating infused wax like Synergy? That is the only wax that I have used on top of a coating. I use it on top of Essence also. That wax acts like a coating.

I currently have 2 coats of Synergy and then PA High Gloss on top on my own car. Totally acts like a coating, except for probably additional hardness.

MrOneEyedBoh
07-29-2018, 04:20 PM
I want to try synergy but don't wanna spend the money and be disappointed

Eldorado2k
07-29-2018, 04:29 PM
Do a 50/50 with your wax and show us the results.