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mightypudge
06-17-2018, 06:53 AM
Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there!

Yesterday, while putting the finishing touches on a rinseless wash, I spotted the following defect on my driver's side front door. I don't know what this is or how it got there, but I've removed so many bird bombs from my car in the past three weeks I am already losing track of them. The defect is slightly raised and rough to the touch. The car is a 2018 VW GTI in Dark Iron Blue.

Can anyone help with identifying this defect and the best approach to eradicating the unwelcome guest? Thank you!!

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mightypudge
06-19-2018, 11:38 AM
Bump. Did I really stump everyone, or did I ask a stupid question? :)

DaveT435
06-19-2018, 11:52 AM
No such thing as a stupid question. I really don't know what it is. Is the whole thing raised, or just right around the darker area in the center? Does it feel smooth or rough?

I've had a couple odd looking areas on my wife's paint which is a gray metallic. I call it bruised paint. It's odd it's like a small spot that got scratched but the object was too blunt to scratch it. The clear is still in tact, but the metallic and color look a little different in that area.

mightypudge
06-19-2018, 12:09 PM
No such thing as a stupid question. I really don't know what it is. Is the whole thing raised, or just right around the darker area in the center? Does it feel smooth or rough?

The darker middle section is raised. The lighter "halo" area around it I believe it not, but I will confirm.


I've had a couple odd looking areas on my wife's paint which is a gray metallic. I call it bruised paint. It's odd it's like a small spot that got scratched but the object was too blunt to scratch it. The clear is still in tact, but the metallic and color look a little different in that area.

Yeah, this is unlike anything I have seen before. I am almost afraid to attempt correcting it.

DaveT435
06-19-2018, 12:32 PM
The darker middle section is raised. The lighter "halo" area around it I believe it not, but I will confirm.



Yeah, this is unlike anything I have seen before. I am almost afraid to attempt correcting it.

Mi know it isn't because of your description, the picture looks almost like it got shot with a BB or pellet gun. In the picture it sure looks like that dark spot in the middle is the color coat under the clear.

When you go confirm the raised are can you try to get a couple pictures form different angles. Maybe someone will recognize it as something they've seen before that way.

mightypudge
06-19-2018, 01:15 PM
Mi know it isn't because of your description, the picture looks almost like it got shot with a BB or pellet gun.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me, around this neighborhood. I'll see if I can get a few more pictures.

DaveT435
06-19-2018, 02:49 PM
It honestly wouldn't surprise me, around this neighborhood. I'll see if I can get a few more pictures.

Hopefully more pictures help.

mightypudge
06-19-2018, 05:41 PM
Here is a link to a Google photo album. I tried to get it from a couple of angles. Thanks!

GTI Defect - Google Photos (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LAYF5zEfYWTv9iEN8)

DaveT435
06-20-2018, 08:22 AM
Here is a link to a Google photo album. I tried to get it from a couple of angles. Thanks!

GTI Defect - Google Photos (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LAYF5zEfYWTv9iEN8)

I wish I had a definite answer for you. I hoped keeping this thread current some others would chime in. It still looks like a chip to me in the center. If it is raised up it's possible someone bumped your door with theirs and it's transfer clear coat from their vehicle.

LSNAutoDetailing
06-20-2018, 10:40 AM
I've seen this before with rock chips or something other than a rock FOD (foreign object damage) where the FOD hit at such and angle and velocity it actually caused a bit of halo due to debris breaking apart on impact, and instead of removing paint, actually pushed the paint up a bit.

mightypudge
06-20-2018, 11:47 AM
I've seen this before with rock chips or something other than a rock FOD (foreign object damage) where the FOD hit at such and angle and velocity it actually caused a bit of halo due to debris breaking apart on impact, and instead of removing paint, actually pushed the paint up a bit.

Well that sounds nasty. Interestingly, the local township is in the process of repaving the main cross street by my house and I've been driving on loose rock and dust every other day for three weeks. My guess is, something got kicked up.

Assuming your guess is correct, what would be the best way to handle? Can it be corrected or should I leave it alone?

SWETM
06-20-2018, 03:06 PM
That could be from a loose tarmac stone that has chipped your paint. When you have meet another car that slinged it away. It could explain the halo around the spot. If the clearcoat was gotten penetrated and some of the solvents in the tar caused the halo. But just a thought. Cause have not seen anything like it before. Don't do anything to before you know if you could get anything from the city to get the damage solved. I would contact them and see if that is possible or if you have an insurance that you could use. If it's clearcoat damage a repaint is necessary to get it fixed.

mightypudge
06-21-2018, 06:02 AM
That could be from a loose tarmac stone that has chipped your paint. When you have meet another car that slinged it away. It could explain the halo around the spot. If the clearcoat was gotten penetrated and some of the solvents in the tar caused the halo. But just a thought. Cause have not seen anything like it before. Don't do anything to before you know if you could get anything from the city to get the damage solved. I would contact them and see if that is possible or if you have an insurance that you could use. If it's clearcoat damage a repaint is necessary to get it fixed.

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, there is no chance the state or township will pay a claim on this. I can't prove negligence since the township was in the process of repaving the road. Even though they removed the old surface three weeks ago and still haven't resurfaced it, it would have to be like this for months before I could even consider filing a claim.

The defect is really small, but I see it every time I wipe down the panel. I don't think it makes sense to have the door repainted yet; I've only owned the car for a month.

SWETM
06-21-2018, 09:08 AM
Do it look like tar in the center of the spot? You could test with a tar remover followed by clay if necessary. If you want to do something to it. Be carefull if there is a little stone in the spot. So after the tar remover has dwelled enough rinse it off with a strong water pressure. Inspect what happened and how the spot looks afterwards. If you see a benefit to claying it do so. And maybe a fine polish to see if the halo gets off. You could have to step up in aggressiveness also. But if it is some paint damage as it's gone through the clearcoat I would not clay or polish. Before you are ready to repaint the panel. It's all about how the damage looks. It could be worth to only fill it with some touch up paint.