Very fine spider webs on black

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Report back on your updated results. :xyxthumbs:

[Rsurfer]

Maybe the op bought the chemical guys stuff from here did you ever think of that? Do we have to buy every single detailing product we own from here before we can ask a question?

No you don't have too. You may ask the question from the place you bought it from.

[kevincwelch]

I think the OP simply asked about getting rid of those fine swirls and what polishes and pads to use. He said he used a "RO" polisher. (Don't we all mention that we've used products from time to time that are not from AG? Heck, we even say something like "used a product I can't discuss here.") It was Mike who asked what type of polisher he was using. Maybe the OP is sizing up some of the DA polishers on AG now. Who knows? I'm sure a lot of people come here and officially take the discussion plunge when they want some advice; I know I did.

AGO is a great forum, so I support PBMC.

[Mike Phillips]

FWIW, I bought a Chemical Guys swirl remover initially. I wasn't getting very good results.

I then bought some Griots BOSS products and got great results.



Besides abrasive technology, did you cahange any other factors? Tool? Pads? Technique?

:)

[jdgamble]

Besides abrasive technology, did you cahange any other factors? Tool? Pads? Technique?

:)

Good point Mike. I also returned the Torq DA that I started with and purchased a GG6. That made a world of difference. But I still tried the CG VSS with the GG6, and the results were not good. I felt like I was creating imperfections while polishing.


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[Desertnate]

Good point Mike. I also returned the Torq DA that I started with and purchased a GG6. That made a world of difference. But I still tried the CG VSS with the GG6, and the results were not good. I felt like I was creating imperfections while polishing.


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This brings up a interesting question. If the "contact patch", i.e. pads and polishing products, are high quality, does the DA polisher matter that much? I'm not saying all DA polishers are made equal, but I've got a cheap, crude, low-rent DA (purchased before I joined here and became educated). When paired with an LC backing plate, LC pads, and good polishes I've been able to produce great results. I know a better DA could produce the same results faster with less vibration stress on my hands/arms, but I'm more interested in what other possible gains would result from upgrade the tool to the same standards as the rest of my products.

[jdgamble]

The issue I had with the Torq was that I couldn't keep it moving. It just didn't have enough power. The only other experience I have is the GG6, which has plenty of power. Based on this, I would say the machine is pretty important.


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[Desertnate]

I've never stalled out the polisher, so I guess it has that going for it!

[dlc95]

The issue I had with the Torq was that I couldn't keep it moving. It just didn't have enough power. The only other experience I have is the GG6, which has plenty of power. Based on this, I would say the machine is pretty important.


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It could also be a technique thing.

I've used a GG6 along side an original PC, while the GG6 is obviously more robust, maintaining pad rotation was never an issue with either tool. Even a cheap department store orbital will rotate if used with a technique that allows for rotation.

[jdgamble]

Could be. It was my first time using a DA. But even on a flat surface, even light pressure would stop rotation. It was terrible. It was the Torq X... It has a very low current motor. Lowest rated of any that I looked at (after I bought it of course).


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[Eldorado2k]

It was terrible. It was the Torq X... It has a very low current motor. Lowest rated of any that I looked at (after I bought it of course).


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The Torqx polisher has a 700 watt motor, which makes it among the strongest in the 8mm class. 200 watts more than the Meguiars MT300, way more then the Porter Cable.. Where are you getting your information?

[jdgamble]

680W for Torqx... 850 for GG6. I didn't look at the PC, but you're right, it's only 540. I can only speak from experience. The Torqx would stop on the slightest curve, while the GG keeps moving. Maybe I had a bad unit. Reviews indicate that the Torq tools are prone to failure.


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[Eldorado2k]

680W for Torqx... 850 for GG6. I didn't look at the PC, but you're right, it's only 540. I can only speak from experience. The Torqx would stop on the slightest curve, while the GG keeps moving. Maybe I had a bad unit. Reviews indicate that the Torq tools are prone to failure.


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700W for Torqx polisher.

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[jdgamble]

That's not the torq x. It's the torq fx.


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[jdgamble]

And FWIW, motor rating is part of the equation. Equally important is motor efficiency. Mike is the one who told me the Torq was a weak polisher and suggested the GG6. He prompted my response (see above). Have you actually used a TorqX tool?


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