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bud659
11-24-2017, 05:18 AM
It was just warm enough that I detailed black car 2 weeks ago:

wash
clay
wash
menzerna
collinite 845

then last week

wash
2nd coat of collinite

my WGDPS 3.0 just arrived and was itching to try it out

What wax work best over 2 coats of 845? I have 845 left and new wgdps

Thanks!

WaxMaster1
11-24-2017, 07:50 AM
I think you're best off with 845 as your LSP. If it was my car, I'd put down the Wolfgang first and then 1 coat of 845

Nix
11-24-2017, 07:51 AM
I would not use any sealant over 845..If you have 2 coats already then you are good for a while and try WG when you polish your car again..

Kevin845
11-24-2017, 09:06 AM
I think you're best off with 845 as your LSP. If it was my car, I'd put down the Wolfgang first and then 1 coat of 845

I agree, Wolfgang first, then follow with 845 if you want. Also 2 coats of 845 is plenty for winter.

RTexasF
11-24-2017, 10:12 AM
You would just be spinning your wheels. Use it on another car to get the full effect from it.

bud659
11-24-2017, 03:09 PM
When the 2nd coat of 845 went on, the car had an amazing slippery surface. The coats I had applied were thin with a DA

My wife put a coffee cup on the roof and it slid off , the surface was so slippery

But After 3 rain storms, about 1inch of rain total, the slipperiness is gone. The beading held up ok.

Will another thin coat of 845 be ok? to bring it back the slipperiness and to achieve durability for winter. Or other suggestions?

Should I expect slipperiness to last?

FUNX650
11-24-2017, 05:29 PM
After 3 rain storms, about 1inch of rain total,
the slipperiness is gone. The beading held up ok.

Will another thin coat of 845 be ok?
to bring it back the slipperiness and
to achieve durability for winter.

Or other suggestions?

Should I expect slipperiness to last?
First:
I don’t equate slipperiness with durability.
(“Beading” runs a close second.)

Secondly:
If just 3 rain-only events adversely affected
#845’s slipperiness to the point of vanishment...
imagine the havoc that a full Winter’s worth of
inclimate weather could possibly wreak upon
its slipperiness characteristic. (Does that mean
it’s protective characteristic could also be gone?)


Thirdly:
I don’t expect an LSP’s slipperiness to last
very long. (Getting more than just a few
weeks worth would be meritorious, IMO.)

Lastly:
•Some say Collinite #845 is a Hybrid.
-That is: it contains both Carnauba
and Synthetic Wax components.

-With that in mind:
Conduct an experiment.

-On opposing vehicle panels:
Apply one coat of #845; and one
coat of WDGPS 3.0. This will enable
you to more readily see how each
product’s characteristics—including
any slipperiness—are manifested
before, during, and/or after they
both undergo Winter weather woes.



Bob

BadgerRivFan
11-25-2017, 09:37 AM
Or, use a spray wax the next time you wash the car. This will get you the slickness back that you desire.

845 is very durable, two coats should give you many months of protection.

Ronin47
11-25-2017, 11:27 AM
There is no such thing as layering of waxes,sealants,coatings to increase gloss and protection. You will always end up with just 1 layer. A second layer may be added if you doubted full coverage on the first layer. Wgdgps 3.0 is more durable,better looking and more slick than 845.

jconley30
11-25-2017, 12:07 PM
Sealant before wax

VeloNYC
11-27-2017, 11:50 PM
I followed the hype getting #845 first, then I got WDGPS now #845 is collecting dust. This sealant makes my car so slippery that I stopped closing the hatch holding it outside. In case if I need more protection during winter I would top WDGPS with #845 or #915 otherwise to me it's perfect on its own.