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Mike Phillips
10-24-2017, 08:28 AM
What to use after sanding a paint job? Sealant followed by Wax? (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/116386-what-use-after-sanding-paint-job-sealant-followed-wax.html)



Anytime I get questions via e-mail, a PM or a FB message I prefer to invest my typing time where

A: It's easier for me to share links, pictures and videos.

B: More people can read and thus benefit from the information. (not just one set of eyeballs)


So I get an e-mail asking,



Mike,

Hi Mike,
I am a member of your forum.

I have a customer that wants me to sand down his orange peel.
The car is in fantastic shape it is 10 years old.
After all the sanding and polishing what product do you suggest?
This is a everyday car and is garaged at night.
I plan on putting a paint sealant and wax on the exterior.

Thank you for your help
Nick

Sent from my iPhone
Nick


Great question Nick and if you're talking about a car with the FACTORY CLEARCOAT finish then I would say

Don't take this job. Factory clearcoats are thinner than a Post-it Note and even if you are able to sand the car and then buff it out and NEVER burn through the clearcoat anywhere - the remaining clearcoat will be UBER THIN and this can lead to clearcoat failure because there's simply not enough "substance" left to endure over time.


You didn't say if this is a factory clear or not so you left me no option but to assume, which I hate doing.


Now if this car has a CUSTOM paint job and you feel or know that it has a substantial amount of clearcoat paint on it that you can safely sand, compound and polish and still leave plenty of paint behind for the FUTURE - then as far as how to protect the paint moving forward I would ask the owner what they like and what they will use to regularly maintain your hard work.

I would also ask them how they plan to wash the car because it is the washing step where most damage is done to car paint by most people.

Not sure if the above is the answer you wanted but that's they way I see it.


:)

Mike Phillips
10-24-2017, 08:31 AM
For everyone else that will read this thread into the future, also read this thread,


Clearcoats are thin by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/87410-clearcoats-thin-mike-phillips.html)



And this thread,


Wetsanding - Fresh Paint vs Factory Paint (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/wet-sanding-cutting-buffing/21471-wetsanding-fresh-paint-vs-factory-paint.html)



And this thread,


The learned skill of turning detailing work down by Mike Phillips (http://tinyurl.com/zpu7pw6)



I think the above three articles with my answer in the first post will put EVERYING into the prpper and correct context.


Wetsanding has a cool factor for sure but it's a HUGE undertaking and you want to make sure you have enough film-build to do the job safely.


:)

Mike Phillips
12-19-2017, 05:15 PM
I wonder if Nick ever clicked the link to his question on this forum, read the answer and move forward with his project?

He never replied back to my reply or to this thread?

I never mind answering other people's questions and helping them to find the success in their garage they're looking for but really? Can't even get back to me?


:dunno:

dlc95
12-20-2017, 08:35 PM
I wonder if Nick ever clicked the link to his question on this forum, read the answer and move forward with his project?

He never replied back to my reply or to this thread?

I never mind answering other people's questions and helping them to find the success in their garage they're looking for but really? Can't even get back to me?


:dunno:

Good avice for all of us, really. Especially the lurkers that will see this pop up in their Google searches.

I was a lurker from around 2008, and didn't register until 2013. In those years, I learned a TON off this forum.