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Route246
09-26-2017, 05:37 PM
Are there any comparisons to the various iron decon (i.e. IronX) products out there? I'm leaning towards McKees at this point since I borrowed a friend's for a test and it seems to work well. I like to buy gallons and McKee's is $79. I'm also open to buying a litre of IronX at $33 if it is compellingly superior to others.

KirkH
09-26-2017, 05:39 PM
I have found McKee's to be superior for products you can get off the Internet. I know of one better product but you have to buy it off the truck.

Route246
09-26-2017, 08:38 PM
I have found McKee's to be superior for products you can get off the Internet. I know of one better product but you have to buy it off the truck.

Thank you.

minerigger
09-26-2017, 10:28 PM
The mckees iron remover is better than the carpro iron x? Man I hope so because it's cheaper and i need to get some so that just seems smart to me.

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MattPersman
09-27-2017, 05:38 AM
I don't think I have seen a recent comparison. In 2014 Todd did one that iron x was still the best but mckees wasn't out then either.

One would hope that since mckees came out many years later it would have some advantages. But you just never know.

They are both 20 bucks for 16 oz retail as of today's date on autogeek so no price savings. BRitemax and BDX are cheaper they all do the same thing pretty much just one may work faster or more thorough than the other


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kb2ehj
09-27-2017, 11:55 AM
What about the Poorboy's version? I used it this past weekend and it seemed to do the job also.

Route246
09-27-2017, 12:13 PM
My guess is that they are all mostly the same and use the same chemical or chemicals to achieve the color change and iron dissolving. I've been searching for the magic explanation on how this works but haven't found the patent or patents yet.

I was successful in finding the patent for SiO2-related coatings and posted it here: https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/115452-silicon-dioxide-spray-coatings-patent-ownership.html

Route246
09-27-2017, 12:25 PM
Here are some of the gallon/4/5-litre choices available here:

http://www.autogeek.net/bulk-iron-remover.html
http://www.autogeek.net/poorboys-world-iron-remover128.html
http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ironx-5-liters.html
http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-iron-remover.html
http://www.autogeek.net/britemax-iron-max-128.html
http://www.autogeek.net/griots-garage-iron-remover-gallon.html
http://www.autogeek.net/gyeon-iron-4000.html

I'm leaning towards McKee's at this point.

minerigger
09-27-2017, 12:35 PM
Realistically if they all do the same thing then the cheapest would proably be the smartest route. Now if you have to go over everything 2x with the cheaper then it's not really cheaper but that's rather obvious. I would think the ironx is dang legit but at a $1 an ounce that's some pricey stuff but I guess if ones prices are set accordingly then you should be factored in. So much to learn about in the industry for a new guy trying to start out.

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SWETM
09-27-2017, 02:05 PM
https://youtu.be/Cn53IO1HW9Y

This guy do excellent reviews. I recommend to look at this on britemax also which is interesting claying at the same time do iron removal.

https://youtu.be/fNPqQocV_yQ

Hope it's ok to link this? He is from the UK so maybe not all products are available in the US but some is and even on AGO.

kb2ehj
09-27-2017, 03:05 PM
My guess is that they are all mostly the same[/url]

I couldn't agree with you any more. I think a lot of products (and not just the car care industry) come from one manufacture and are simply just relabeled.

KirkH
09-27-2017, 03:25 PM
I couldn't agree with you any more. I think a lot of products (and not just the car care industry) come from one manufacture and are simply just relabeled.

And different dilutions. Armor All, Turtle Wax, etc seem to be diluted more than the expensive brands.

I find that McKee's reacts the most on like wheels, followed by IronX. Chemical Guys Decon reacts the least. Sonax is in the middle. The best I have seen is one that you have to buy off the truck (not on Autogeek) but it is truly "no touch" brake dust remover.

The Guz
09-27-2017, 06:20 PM
Are there any comparisons to the various iron decon (i.e. IronX) products out there? I'm leaning towards McKees at this point since I borrowed a friend's for a test and it seems to work well. I like to buy gallons and McKee's is $79. I'm also open to buying a litre of IronX at $33 if it is compellingly superior to others.

Is this for paint or wheels?

I've used McKee's and Ironx on paint. McKee's stuck better to the paint as it's more of a gel. But Ironx reacted faster to iron particles. I also found that I used less of the ironx compared to McKee's. I base this on the fact that McKee's is a gel like consistency. At the end of the day they both do the job of removing iron particles. Also Ironx smells worse than McKee's.

Optimum Ferrex is another good one. It can actually remove tar as well as iron particles.

minerigger
09-27-2017, 06:22 PM
Can't you use these on both paint and wheels ot is that a nono?

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The Guz
09-27-2017, 06:23 PM
Can't you use these on both paint and wheels ot is that a nono?

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Sure you can. I just found that ironx works better on paint than on painted wheels with brake dust. McKee's does both pretty well. Although McKee's wheel cleaner works even better for wheels.