Swirl X by hand

[AKT]

Saw this video: https://youtu.be/Jk9BE-KGHTc

Is it true that using swirl x by hand can give this result? Anyone had any experience with swirl x by hand?

I am fairly new to detailing as a hobby. And right now, i am at the rinseless washing, claying, and waxing. I am yet to try and learn paint correction [emoji3]

[FUNX650]

Is it true that using swirl x by hand
can give this result? Anyone had any
experience with swirl x by hand?

SwirlX (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?28335-SwirlX&highlight=swirl%20hand)


Bob

[AKT]

SwirlX (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?28335-SwirlX&highlight=swirl%20hand)


Bob

Thank you sir. So do you agree that, by hand, I just need to work the product with no superman strength pressure?

[The Guz]

Check out this write up by Mike

Man versus Machine (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2009-2016-how-articles-mike-phillips/20257-man-versus-machine.html)

[Eldorado2k]

Those old Meguiars vids bring back good memories of way back [over 10yrs. ago] when I 1st set out to take detailing of my car to the next level. Those vids were part of my guide and inspiration.. 1st time I clayed, Crystal Paint Cleaner, Crystal Polish, NXT 2.0 was the big craze back then... I did it all by hand and took 3 days.

I had pearl white paint and didn't even know how to look for swirls. Lol. It would be cool to be able to look back just to see if I actually removed any of them because I sure as heck put alot of elbow grease into the whole process. :)

[AKT]

Check out this write up by Mike

Man versus Machine (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2009-2016-how-articles-mike-phillips/20257-man-versus-machine.html)

I saw this before and it almost got me into buying a polisher. [emoji3]

I am just trying to be practical because this is a daily driver and it will get hurt one way or another. I cannot seem to upload a photo here...

[AKT]

59809

There we go. I had to make the file smaller. Is this a "cheat" shot? Or does this angle justify the looks of the car?

[Eldorado2k]

59809

There we go. I had to make the file smaller. Is this a "cheat" shot? Or does this angle justify the looks of the car?

That's a cheap shot... Anything can look good at that angle. Take a close up picture in direct sunlight with the sun dead center in the shot, like this.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/fb5059e553c8bd3b3c07b7d1f34389a9.jpg

[AKT]

See? I am very happy with was what turned out to be a cheap shot haha. Man, I have low expectations

[Eldorado2k]

See? I am very happy with was what turned out to be a cheap shot haha. Man, I have low expectations

In that case just pick up some "cleaner wax" and apply it by hand with your choice of applicator and you'll be happy. There's certainly nothing wrong with being content with the level of detailed your car is as long as you're happy with it that's all that matters. :)

[AKT]

In that case just pick up some "cleaner wax" and apply it by hand with your choice of applicator and you'll be happy. There's certainly nothing wrong with being content with the level of detailed your car is as long as you're happy with it that's all that matters. :)

Thank you for the kind words sir! That is my guide - "be contented". Before, when i wanted a prefect paint, i get sleepless nights whenever there is a new chip or hairline scratches.

[Eldorado2k]

Thank you for the kind words sir! That is my guide - "be contented". Before, when i wanted a prefect paint, i get sleepless nights whenever there is a new chip or hairline scratches.

[emoji1417]

[yakky]

You can walk from NYC to LA as well. I'll take a plane.

[Mike Phillips]

Saw this video: https://youtu.be/Jk9BE-KGHTc

Is it true that using swirl x by hand can give this result?

Anyone had any experience with swirl x by hand?

I am fairly new to detailing as a hobby. And right now, i am at the rinseless washing, claying, and waxing. I am yet to try and learn paint correction




In that video, that's Mike Pennington, the Director of Training at Meguiar's demonstrating hand-technique for removing swirls.

If you duplicate what he did then "yes" you can remove light or more specifically shallow swirls and scratches. You will have to work SMALL areas at a time like he did. When moving onto a new section you'll have to overlap into the previous section for good UMR.


UMR = Uniform Material Removal - Removing the same amount of paint when doing correction work for a uniform appearance (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2017-new-car-detailing-how-article-mike-phillips/111239-umr-uniform-material-removal-removing-same-amount-paint-when-doing-correction-work-uniform-appearance.html)



When I watched the video here's what stood out to me...


First - Barry Meguiar's pointing out the obvious but in a nice and professional manner and that is most of the cars, (which are high end cool cars), at a car show like he was at and like all cars shows are ALL swirled out.

I know any of you reading this right now can relate. We go to car shows or even watch the cars on car guy TV shows and the cars are cool but the paint looks like crap. And it's so easy now days to actually do good work yet so often the paint on the cars at cars shows and on TV are all swirled-out.

That's okay though, creates business for detailers that actually know what they are doing.


The tricky thing is always finding a nice way to tell people their really cool, exotic or expensive car looks horrible.



Second - When the camera comes in to show the before and after difference where Mike worked, the camera man completely missed the mark. He didn't

A: Position the camera in a way to capture the light on both sides of the tape-line.

B: Position the car in a way to capture the light on both sides of the tape-line.


That video would have been a LOT more powerful and convincing if during the "after" video footage the intense light would have lit up the paint that Mike worked to show that he did in fact remove the swirls by hand. Instead all you see is the light barely on the swirled-out side and no light on the side he worked.


When I first started working on TV showing the masses how to polish paint and detail cars one of the things I had to do with EVERY TV production company we've worked with is,

A: Educate the director, producer and cameramen what swirls are.

B: Explain, share and show the cameramen how to capture the before shot (the ugly), and then how to capture the after shot, (the beautiful).


Most of the people I've worked with on the TV side simply are not "car guys". The don't know the difference between a squirrel or a swirl.


The difference between a swirl and squirrel (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23142-difference-between-swirl-squirrel.html)







SwirlX (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?28335-SwirlX&highlight=swirl%20hand)




I forgot I wrote that new product introduction thread... incredible how many pages that thread went and all the questions...

Also interesting is that ScratchX (at least at that time in 2008), was more aggressive than SwirlX. So if a person really wanted to remove swirls by hand they would be much more effective to use Ultimate Compound and if they didn't have UC then get ScratchX. SwirlX would be a last option for me but then I wouldn't try to de-swirl a car by hand either.


:)

[AKT]

You can walk from NYC to LA as well. I'll take a plane.

So far, this is the only rude reply I got here in AGO. I guess there is really a first for everything.