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Booki
07-27-2017, 07:13 AM
I have tried my luck at using some Fusso, having some pretty poor results. Though I suspect its not the product, but perhaps my technique. I have never applied a sealant before. Plenty of wax's sure, but never a sealant.

It seems no matter how little or how much I apply, nor how long or short I let it cure (anywhere from 1 min up to 5-6 minutes), it just doesn't buff off cleanly.

Here is a video, has anybody had similar issues with Fusso or other sealants in general?

The car has been washed, clayed, M205 polished, washed again, blow dried, then dried what ever is left with a microfibre then applies the Fusso.

now applying the king of gloss over the hazed/ugly fusso makes it look fantastic, there is a very noticeable increase in gloss.

speaking of gloss increases - I actually noticed a decrease in gloss when comparing it to a 50/50 tape line of a pure polished paint surface to a application of fusso. now this doesn't sound right at all to me.

Majority of it buffs off easily, but there is just that haze/residue behind that i can't seem to get off the paint! I can see it move when i try and buff it off, it just kinda sits there ontop of the paint.

https://youtu.be/yVWhNi5rvKc

RippyD
07-27-2017, 07:28 AM
I would guess it needs more time to cure. I would try a test spot and give it 10 mins. If that doesn't work try 15. You may also need to clean off the polishing oils from 205.

Booki
07-27-2017, 08:42 AM
Good idea, Ill give it a go.

I washed the car after 205 - used a mix of my neutral snow foam with a squirt of some dishwashing liquid - car is bare.

lawrenceSA
07-27-2017, 09:10 AM
Good idea, Ill give it a go.

I washed the car after 205 - used a mix of my neutral snow foam with a squirt of some dishwashing liquid - car is bare.

Probably quite the contrary. Dishwashing liquid will leave behind a film of surfactants designed to help water sheet of your dishes when you wash them.

Perhaps you should look into using something like Gyeon Prep, Carpro Eraser or one of the other brands who have similar products after 205 and before Fusso.

I also think you are either over applying the Fusso to start with, or not letting it 'cure' enough before wiping off.

RippyD
07-27-2017, 10:05 AM
Probably quite the contrary. Dishwashing liquid will leave behind a film of surfactants designed to help water sheet of your dishes when you wash them.

Perhaps you should look into using something like Gyeon Prep, Carpro Eraser or one of the other brands who have similar products after 205 and before Fusso.

I also think you are either over applying the Fusso to start with, or not letting it 'cure' enough before wiping off.
Good call. I sound have thought of over applying first. Seems like the most likely issues. THIN coats. Almost seemingly too thin is probably where you want to be.

And agree on the soap. Not sure the oils are an issue. Dish soap generally considered not great for car paint. If you don't have a "prep" product google using alcohol as a prep or panel wipe. Do not just take alcohol from the bottle to your paint.

supercharged75
07-27-2017, 11:09 AM
Use isopropyl alcohol mixed 1:1 with water and wipe panels.

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RippyD
07-27-2017, 11:14 AM
Use isopropyl alcohol mixed 1:1 with water and wipe panels.
Please don't do this. Mike's article on making panel wipe (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2009-2016-how-articles-mike-phillips/31183-how-mix-ipa-inspecting-correction-results.html).

You have to consider what concentration of alcohol you want and what concentration you're diluting. There's a good alcohol panel wipe calculator. I'll post the link when I find it unless somebody beats me to to.

Please read Mike's article.

Booki
07-27-2017, 08:31 PM
I'll try letting it cure, it's winter here at the moment, temps are about 10C during the day.

I feel like no matter what I try, the results are still very mediocre.

Leaving a a hard to see film behind (only visible in certain lights and angles ) is not the way it's meant to be...right?

I have never applied a sealant before but most report better gloss levels then any wax can produce, so I am assuming nothing is left behind but immaculate polished paint