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anderson3754
07-02-2017, 08:51 AM
Anyone else try HD speed by hand. Tried a 1ftx1ft section. Put it on with a waxing pad, let it dry and wiped it off, buffing with a microfiber towel. Looks wet and really shines, the paint in question is black.

Regards

LEDetailing
07-02-2017, 12:10 PM
Yes, I polished my door jambs with Speed.

Dark metallic blue paint on my Pontiac TA. Same method, MF applicator, slick, glossy, removed light marring and most importantly, clean!

ducksfan
07-02-2017, 03:14 PM
Working by machine is faster. But, that doesn't mean working by hand won't take you in the correct direction.

If you find you want a little more correction, you could get some Meguiars Ultimate Compound (UC) and use that by hand prior to applying the Speed. I'm not saying do the whole car in one session with the UC. Just pick your spots and move the paint forward. A lot of guys here use the Megs UC in areas where they have to work by hand (Under door handles, under mirrors, in and around emblems, etc.)

VISITOR
07-02-2017, 04:59 PM
working by machine is ideal because it will break down the abrasives (AIO) which will give you better results overall...

anderson3754
07-03-2017, 03:29 PM
Yes, I polished my door jambs with Speed.

Dark metallic blue paint on my Pontiac TA. Same method, MF applicator, slick, glossy, removed light marring and most importantly, clean!

I mostly fool around with 60-70's cars and they have a lot of metal inside I think this stuff works great. Easy on easy off and it shines very nice. This is the only 3D product I have right now, But....I think I'm going to try some of their other polishes this week with my upcoming order here.

Regards

anderson3754
07-03-2017, 03:40 PM
Working by machine is faster. But, that doesn't mean working by hand won't take you in the correct direction.

If you find you want a little more correction, you could get some Meguiars Ultimate Compound (UC) and use that by hand prior to applying the Speed. I'm not saying do the whole car in one session with the UC. Just pick your spots and move the paint forward. A lot of guys here use the Megs UC in areas where they have to work by hand (Under door handles, under mirrors, in and around emblems, etc.)

I just picked up a bottle of Ultimate compound this week that also is nice stuff used it on a truck lid that had a few deeper scratches in the clear coat with a white pad on that baby 3" from Groits that little machine works very nice now with the 3" thin pads from Lake Country. I almost threw the machine away when I first got it trying to make it work with 4" waffle pads, the thin 3" pads work very nice. Use it a lot on the interior metal on the older cars.

Regards

sportsfan
07-03-2017, 03:54 PM
working by machine is ideal because it will break down the abrasives (AIO) which will give you better results overall...

I think HD Speed uses SMAT and not DAT abrasives. Thus, no breakdown occurs.

Same as LEDetailing, I also use it on door jambs works great.

anderson3754
07-03-2017, 04:07 PM
I think HD Speed uses SMAT and not DAT abrasives. Thus, no breakdown occurs.

Same as LEDetailing, I also use it on door jambs works great.

Thanks that was going to be my next question is Speed and the other polishes from HD SMAT or DAT.

LSNAutoDetailing
07-03-2017, 04:17 PM
Thanks that was going to be my next question is Speed and the other polishes from HD SMAT or DAT.


Per David Fermani (formerly with 3D Products):

HD Speed is a combination of 75% HD Polish & 25% HD POXY. The abrasives are identical in both products

Thus they are all Adaptive Abrasive Technology (AAT).

Regarding using the product by hand? It's possible, you'll be at it a long time and will never achieve the results of a machine polishing as the product was intended. A hand cannot match the speed, rotation and orbit of a DA Polisher.

anderson3754
07-03-2017, 04:58 PM
Per David Fermani (formerly with 3D Products):


Thus they are all Adaptive Abrasive Technology (AAT).

Regarding using the product by hand? It's possible, you'll be at it a long time and will never achieve the results of a machine polishing as the product was intended. A hand cannot match the speed, rotation and orbit of a DA Polisher.

Hmmm..AAT... That's interesting, now I have another topic to become familiar with.

Regards

LSNAutoDetailing
07-03-2017, 05:10 PM
Hmmm..AAT... That's interesting, now I have another topic to become familiar with.

Regards

It's 3D's proprietary abrasive technology.

Here is the results one can expect form 3D HD Speed, as used on a 1996 Dodge Ram.https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/NDMyMDBENDRBMDdEQzFGODRDQUY6YzA0NGY5NDIxZWE3ODRiND M5M2VjZTBmYzYzMWU2ZjE=?uid=5ecd15da-74b4-4b7c-bf4d-a9e34604d80b

FUNX650
07-03-2017, 06:35 PM
Hmmm..AAT...
That's interesting, now I have another
topic to become familiar with.

While you're at it...
Might as well include CAT:
(conglomerate abrasive technology).

:bolt:


Bob

VISITOR
07-03-2017, 07:45 PM
I think HD Speed uses SMAT and not DAT abrasives. Thus, no breakdown occurs.

using a machine is going to do a better (and more even) job working the product (smat or dat) in (especially around the whole/entire car) thus giving better results more than your hands will ever do. if you're applying an LSP with no cleaners then doing it by hand would be more appropriate than doing it by hand with an AIO unless it's small/tight/spot areas that a polisher obviously can't get into. work smarter not harder. below is an example of why you would want to use a polisher with an AIO..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5vNijiZHQ

anderson3754
07-04-2017, 07:53 AM
It's 3D's proprietary abrasive technology.

Here is the results one can expect form 3D HD Speed, as used on a 1996 Dodge Ram.https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/NDMyMDBENDRBMDdEQzFGODRDQUY6YzA0NGY5NDIxZWE3ODRiND M5M2VjZTBmYzYzMWU2ZjE=?uid=5ecd15da-74b4-4b7c-bf4d-a9e34604d80b

That looks very nice, which pads did you use to achieve that result?

soobaroo
07-04-2017, 02:21 PM
It's 3D's proprietary abrasive technology.

Here is the results one can expect form 3D HD Speed, as used on a 1996 Dodge Ram.https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/NDMyMDBENDRBMDdEQzFGODRDQUY6YzA0NGY5NDIxZWE3ODRiND M5M2VjZTBmYzYzMWU2ZjE=?uid=5ecd15da-74b4-4b7c-bf4d-a9e34604d80b

Nice. You couldn't ask for more from an AIO.