I got a smokin' deal on Black Label Synergy, is it really worth the money?

[Nicky Pass]

I just bought an Avalanche Gray Shelby GT350. I've kind of been obsessing about getting the car as swirl free, glossy and as protected as possible....it is my obtainable dream car after all. I've always wondered about Black Label Synergy, but didn't have the nuts to drop $200 on wax. Then the Memorial Day 20% of came up....and the $50 off Cyber Monday deal came up, so I bought it. I hav a bunch of Adam's products that I've used so far....I clay barred the entire car. The I used the Adam's Paint Correction Compund followed by their Paint Finishing Polish. I as looking for something to preserve the hard work, so for the time being, I put 2 coats of Adam's Paint Sealant on the car.

I ordered the Pinnacle Black Label Synergy because it was a great deal. I read it works really good on lighter colored cars, which helped me choose.

So now....
1.) is Pinnacle Black Label Synergy worth the money?
2.) do I have to strip the Adam's Paint Sealant to get the best results or can I just go right over it?
3.) should I have just gone with a ceramic coating like CQuartz or OPT Gloss?

[custmsprty]

1) No (not even on sale)
2)Yes
3)Yes

[WaxMaster1]

1). It was obviously worth something to you because you bought it.
2). I would to get the best adherence
3). Depends on what you're looking for. Use what you bought and report back

[Nicky Pass]

The car is a garage queen...I'm looking for protection, but I was looking for the deepest, glossiest....just painted look. I've been looking a ceramic coatings, but they are semi-permanent....and I've read the give a "synthetic" look....kind of plasticy. I've always clayed, corrected, finish polished, sealed then waxed in the past,

[custmsprty]

The car is a garage queen...I'm looking for protection, but I was looking for the deepest, glossiest....just painted look. I've been looking a ceramic coatings, but they are semi-permanent....and I've read the give a "synthetic" look....kind of plasticy. I've always clayed, corrected, finish polished, sealed then waxed in the past,

Polish Angel, deep wet look shine:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/PACFlock_zps0h2xhdok.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/PACFlock_zps0h2xhdok.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/GCPABW_zpsbx8eekuo.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/GCPABW_zpsbx8eekuo.jpg.html)

Polish Angel Viking Coat on my dd White Rogue:
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/EscalateViking2_zpspomlrwra.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/EscalateViking2_zpspomlrwra.jpg.html)

It never looked better than with this stuff:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/EscalateViking3_zpsemwieiw0.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/EscalateViking3_zpsemwieiw0.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/PAVK1_zpsuglkywsu.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/PAVK1_zpsuglkywsu.jpg.html)

I'll be doing the Rogue again in the late fall when it cools down, in the meantime I'm maintaining the current Sonax PNS over the summer.

[Route246]

1. yes
2. no
2. no

Use what you have and enjoy it. The Synergy should work fine on top. Don't fret over what you should have done. Be happy with what you end up with. There is always something more optimal out there. You'll be forever discontent if you go unicorn hunting.

I had the same sort of thoughts when I bought Fuzion. Then I realized it is my car, it is my paint, it is my prep, it is my wax and whatever anyone else says doesn't really matter. More importantly, it is my money.

[custmsprty]

From the Black Label page, prep for Synergy:

The key to success with Black Label Synergy is a clean foundation. Just as you wouldn't paint a dirty wall, you shouldn't apply a wax to a dirty, contaminated vehicle. Start off by washing and drying the vehicle. Then, cover your hand with a plastic baggy and feel the paint. If it feels bumpy or gritty, then you must clay the surface using Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay. This step will make the paint silky smooth and ready for polishing.

You've already done that^^^^^^

Surface Prep Part II:

Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish is the next step.

This non-abrasive polish removes embedded dirt, road film, previously applied waxes, silicones, polishing oils, and virtually anything else that would prevent Synergy from bonding. Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish can be applied by hand or machine.

[Valky]

1.)yes, it's super glossy and super durable as well as jmpressive cleaning ability
2.)yes if you want maximum synergy durability, no if you dont care too much about durability but it will still last over a month
3.) yes, I use them over my coating which start to degrade and it bring up the gloss, great beads and several months of durability. May be because Synergy is a true wax that really cross-link with ceramic particle.

Cust, I love your pic so much that I ran out to buy an expensive PA black wulfenite, for me it's look good but all other property is not worth at all. Triggers spray is bad for years and PA never care, durability and cleaning property is also worst for the price, lasting less than a week in daily mild rainfall.

[custmsprty]

The Synergy I received absolutely emaciated and swirled the heck out of my paint. For application I used the yellow foam pad applicator that they send with it which is the same as on the prodcuts page. It was not contaminated in any way.

My paint was pristine before Synergy:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/nonsynergy_zpsdjwcvcyi.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/nonsynergy_zpsdjwcvcyi.jpg.html)

And it was a swirled out mess after. Their is absolutely no doubt this was from the product. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. I took some synergy out of the can and rubbed it between my fingers until it began to heat up and I could clearly feel a grittiness to it.

Once bitten, twice shy as the saying goes. Anyone who wants me to try this particular pot of synergy out on their black car can come on by :buffing:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/synergy_zpsxno8k0kw.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/synergy_zpsxno8k0kw.jpg.html)

I had to polish the entire hood out to fix the damage, I was glad I only tested it on the hood.

[Nicky Pass]

Do you think you got a bad batch?

[fightnews]

I just bought an Avalanche Gray Shelby GT350. I've kind of been obsessing about getting the car as swirl free, glossy and as protected as possible....it is my obtainable dream car after all. I've always wondered about Black Label Synergy, but didn't have the nuts to drop $200 on wax. Then the Memorial Day 20% of came up....and the $50 off Cyber Monday deal came up, so I bought it. I hav a bunch of Adam's products that I've used so far....I clay barred the entire car. The I used the Adam's Paint Correction Compund followed by their Paint Finishing Polish. I as looking for something to preserve the hard work, so for the time being, I put 2 coats of Adam's Paint Sealant on the car.

I ordered the Pinnacle Black Label Synergy because it was a great deal. I read it works really good on lighter colored cars, which helped me choose.

So now....
1.) is Pinnacle Black Label Synergy worth the money?
2.) do I have to strip the Adam's Paint Sealant to get the best results or can I just go right over it?
3.) should I have just gone with a ceramic coating like CQuartz or OPT Gloss?

Yes yes no, use the surface cleansing polish first or u will regret it

[fightnews]

The Synergy I received absolutely emaciated and swirled the heck out of my paint. For application I used the yellow foam pad applicator that they send with it which is the same as on the prodcuts page. It was not contaminated in any way.

My paint was pristine before Synergy:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/nonsynergy_zpsdjwcvcyi.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/nonsynergy_zpsdjwcvcyi.jpg.html)

And it was a swirled out mess after. Their is absolutely no doubt this was from the product. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. I took some synergy out of the can and rubbed it between my fingers until it began to heat up and I could clearly feel a grittiness to it.

Once bitten, twice shy as the saying goes. Anyone who wants me to try this particular pot of synergy out on their black car can come on by :buffing:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/synergy_zpsxno8k0kw.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/synergy_zpsxno8k0kw.jpg.html)

I had to polish the entire hood out to fix the damage, I was glad I only tested it on the hood.

Did you use the surface cleansing polish first? If not those swirls could be oil from the coating not bonding. That's happened to me it looks swirled but it's not. I highly doubt there was grit in the wax in just your 1 can

[fightnews]

If you don't remove polishing oils before applying synergy the coating will not bond period. It will leave an oily film that won't come off unless a strong APC is used. It will appear swirled.

Synergy is a hybrid product. All polishing oils must be removed for it to bond properly. This is a fact it's in the directions. I believe this is where people are having problems.

[fightnews]

I just put 2 coats of synergy on this over the long weekend

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o596/fightnews/20170529_180300.jpg (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/fightnews/media/20170529_180300.jpg.html)

[Mike Phillips]

Here's an old 2-door European job waxed with Pinnacle Black Label Synergy


1998 Ferrari 355 F1 Spyder

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=90049

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=90050



Here's what she looked like when she arrived...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=90045




http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=90046



All the paint polishing was performed using the RUPES paint polishing system and this is featured car in my RUPES how-to book.


Couple comments about Synergy
This wax is unlike anything else on the Autogeek website except for maybe some of the Dodo Juice "hard" waxes.

Pinnacle Black Label is a "hard" wax. That is it is hard in the can and after you apply it it is hard on the paint. The benefit is after you wipe off the excess what is left behind is hard on the paint.

The gloss is insane and durability is as good as you can get with a traditional paste wax. I'd put this wax up against M16 any day for durability and I've probably used more M16 than anyone still breathing today.

If you have a car that you like to pamper or if you know someone that has a car that they like to pamper this is a top shelf wax that anyone would love to have on their car's paint.

:)