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PA DETAILER
05-21-2017, 04:35 PM
GYEON Q2M Bathe + Plus - 400 ml (http://www.autogeek.net/gyeon-bathe-plus.html)

Correct me if I am wrong. But this would be a perfect soap to maintain hydro blue. Same Si02 makeup.

Ray6712
05-21-2017, 04:37 PM
It would work don't know if it would extend life if hydro blue long though, they're basically the same product


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fly07sti
05-21-2017, 04:51 PM
I use Hydrofoam for some of my customers with coated vehicles. I've used Bathe+ but I prefer Hydrofoam over it.
If you think Hydro Blue and Hydro2 are easy, just wait until you wash with with either of these soaps.

PA DETAILER
05-21-2017, 07:39 PM
I use Hydrofoam for some of my customers with coated vehicles. I've used Bathe+ but I prefer Hydrofoam over it.
If you think Hydro Blue and Hydro2 are easy, just wait until you wash with with either of these soaps.

Yea. Forgot about HYDRO FOAM!

kevincwelch
05-21-2017, 08:20 PM
It would work don't know if it would extend life if hydro blue long though, they're basically the same product


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I don't follow your logic. I find them to be very distinct and different products. Gyeon Bathe+ is a car shampoo with silica content, and Hydro Blue is a pressure activated silica spray. It would seem to me that Gyeon Bathe+ is intended to clean and extend the life of a coating, silica sprays included.

That's why I use Bathe+.

Or, are you saying this because Bathe+ has <5% silica as does Wet Coat? I don't know what the percentage of silica is in Hydro Blue. Nevertheless, they're two different t products in my mind for different purposes.

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kevincwelch
05-21-2017, 08:22 PM
Yea. Forgot about HYDRO FOAM!
Just don't let it sit too long. I had streaking with hydrofoam. It could have been my fault, but I haven't used it in blue moon.

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Ray6712
05-21-2017, 08:23 PM
I've always seen them as having equal properties excluding the soap itself, basically saying you can take bathe+ and wipe on a panel and spray it off basically activating it the same way as hydro blue or the others.

Yes they are different ways to get the same results but very similar in their goals


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Ray6712
05-21-2017, 08:31 PM
I don't follow your logic. I find them to be very distinct and different products. Gyeon Bathe+ is a car shampoo with silica content, and Hydro Blue is a pressure activated silica spray. It would seem to me that Gyeon Bathe+ is intended to clean and extend the life of a coating, silica sprays included.

That's why I use Bathe+.

Or, are you saying this because Bathe+ has <5% silica as does Wet Coat? I don't know what the percentage of silica is in Hydro Blue. Nevertheless, they're two different t products in my mind for different purposes.

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Exactly my point they use different delivery methods but basically have the same results


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kevincwelch
05-21-2017, 08:47 PM
All right: I can see the point that they have the same active ingredient for protection.

Nevertheless, one (Bathe+) is intended to clean a vehicle (and protect) while the other (Hydro Blue, Wet Coat, HydrO2) is intended to protect only. I don't know why one would wash his car with some soap and then wipe Bathe+ on it. That seems like an arduous waste of time when you can just wash with Bathe+ or wash and then use Hydro Blue, etc. Nor would one attempt to wash his car with hydro blue. Not the same products in my mind.

Back to the OP: the product is intended to extend the life of a coating. I assume it does this by layering SiO2.

Ray6712
05-21-2017, 08:55 PM
http://gyeonquartz.com/product/batheplus/

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Not my words but Gyeon's


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kevincwelch
05-21-2017, 09:08 PM
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The Guz
05-22-2017, 02:29 AM
GYEON Q2M Bathe + Plus - 400 ml (http://www.autogeek.net/gyeon-bathe-plus.html)

Correct me if I am wrong. But this would be a perfect soap to maintain hydro blue. Same Si02 makeup.

Should work fine.


I don't know why one would wash his car with some soap and then wipe Bathe+ on it. That seems like an arduous waste of time when you can just wash with Bathe+ or wash and then use Hydro Blue, etc.

Damn and I just wasted time using this method on my dad's car that has gloss coat :(. It did work though.

Reason for that was based on this video by Gyeon covering two methods to use it. I used method 1 but with my foam gun instead. Again it did work with this method.

I may try method 2 or a combo of both methods.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W8oNfnEY_Q

kevincwelch
05-22-2017, 05:34 AM
I just don't buy this claim of "super hydrophobic" when the amount of silica is the same. For me at least, I find it more practical to wash with the product and then use something more convenient (such as Hydro Blue) on the surface, which is faster for the same protection level. Using the second method feels like, to me, washing the car twice and bringing something in contact with the paint twice.

I haven't used it in a foam gun, but that would be interesting to try...sort of like Hydro Foam or TAC Mystic Repellent.

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MattPersman
05-22-2017, 05:46 AM
I'm sure they claim super long durability too [emoji849]


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kevincwelch
05-22-2017, 06:10 AM
I'm sure they claim super long durability too [emoji849]


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How's your wipe on hydro blue test going? (I couldn't find the link.)

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