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Widget
05-16-2017, 12:27 AM
Hi guys,

My car sits outside, so it's often exposed to the dust, dirt, rain, poop etc..

Hoping to get some recommendations on an inexpensive, budget oriented, weekend warrior - Quick Detailer / Waterless wash, maybe something with the ability to remove water spots too, just so I can spray on and wipe off any areas that need it.

I've read about ONR, but you apply that to a bucket of water, then wash the car... then I read about the opti-clean... which seems similar. It all adds up and gets confusing to be honest, many companies with very similar products that do things very similar to each other http://www.detailparadise.com.au/images/smilies/hopelessness.pnghttp://www.detailparadise.com.au/images/smilies/dejection.png

Thoughts ?

Thanks in advance http://www.detailparadise.com.au/images/smilies/smile.png

VISITOR
05-16-2017, 01:39 AM
there are a lot of good ones to choose from, both of these have gotten a lot of praise..

McKee's 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/mckees-rinseless-wash.html)

Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-uber-rinseless-wash.html)

Opti
05-16-2017, 02:08 AM
Hi guys,

My car sits outside, so it's often exposed to the dust, dirt, rain, poop etc..

Hoping to get some recommendations on an inexpensive, budget oriented, weekend warrior - Quick Detailer / Waterless wash, maybe something with the ability to remove water spots too, just so I can spray on and wipe off any areas that need it.

I've read about ONR, but you apply that to a bucket of water, then wash the car... then I read about the opti-clean... which seems similar. It all adds up and gets confusing to be honest, many companies with very similar products that do things very similar to each other http://www.detailparadise.com.au/images/smilies/hopelessness.pnghttp://www.detailparadise.com.au/images/smilies/dejection.png


Hy

ONR and Opti clean are 2 different type products sharing a similar formula.

Optimum No-rinse is a rinseless type product which you mix with water in a bucket (1:256 dilution) and use a sponge or mitt to clean the car and wipe off the product instead of rinsing it (thats why its called No-rinse)...
...while...
Optimum opti-clean is meant more to be as a waterless type product. It shares the formula with ONR and is like a supercharged version of ONR. You dilute it 1:3 in a spray bottle. You spray the product on the panel and wipe it with a MF. It works very well.

Both products work very well and you should be satisfied with whichever you choose.

Widget
05-16-2017, 08:22 AM
Thanks guys :)

Thanks VISITOR, Ill look into those two you linked :)

Thanks Opti, so you recon Opti-clean is the way to go if I wanted to give the car/panels a quick wipe down ?

What's the main difference between a specific QD and using a 'waterless' or 'no-rinse' option ?

Thanks :)

glfnaz
05-16-2017, 10:09 AM
The two products that VISITOR linked, above, are my favorites. When properly diluted per the instructions, they are very economical also.

The Guz
05-16-2017, 10:19 AM
Quick detailers are meant for light dust. Waterless Washes are meant for anything heavier than that up to a point.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x121/tropicaldetailing/washsolution2.jpg

I have used opti-clean, uber and McKee's N914. McKee's is the best one out of all of them. Opti-Clean streaks too much and requires more buffing than I usually like. I was not impressed with uber. McKee's N914 is the ticket. It flashes off without leaving too much buffing after cleaning a panel. Plus McKee's leaves nothing behind on the surface to not alter whatever form of protection is on the car.

jones2507
05-16-2017, 11:24 AM
What about meguiars quick detailer it comes in a spray bottle you can also buy their professional series and dilute it I haven't tried their professional stuff yet but want to


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k20trick
05-16-2017, 12:43 PM
I would stick to something made for rinse less washing such as the McKee rinseless wash solution or the optimum no rinse.

The meguiars quick detailer is for light touch ups its two differences.

Widget
05-16-2017, 12:50 PM
Thanks guys :),

I had a look, but haven't found anyone that stocks/sells McKees products here in Australia :/. I'll have to have another look tomorrow I think.

Thanks Jones, Ill have to check out the Megs range. :)

On the subject of ONR, as it would remove heavier dirt build up... wouldn't that make it somewhat better than the QD? Would ONR remove the smudges, poop, fingerprints, oils etc.. like the dedicated QD ?

ravenquest
05-16-2017, 12:56 PM
I just started working with the Wolfgang Uber Rinseless. I chose that mainly because it can be diluted to 4 different products. I use it as a quick detailer for light wipe downs and trust it more to not mar or cause swirls because it is nearly the same strength as the waterless wash.

I used the Optimum quick detailer and wasn't happy with the streaking and since my car is left out overnight, the moisture in the air always creates a film with the dust. So a quick detailer was a waste for me and may have been adding swirls (you are not supposed to use QD for anything but dust that you can blow away).

I've tried WG Uber at QD, WW, and RW strengths and have been really happy with it except for the last wash where i used rinseless without a pre-soak and swirls showed up. Uber dilutes into plenty of gallons of solution, don't be stingy with the spraying and pre-soaking.

ravenquest
05-16-2017, 01:00 PM
@TheGuz what didn't you like about WG Uber?

jones2507
05-16-2017, 01:14 PM
I would stick to something made for rinse less washing such as the McKee rinseless wash solution or the optimum no rinse.

The meguiars quick detailer is for light touch ups its two differences.

So there is no quick detailer that can be used for dust and just a quick clean up? I've never used rinseless or waterless washes watched videos but everyone has a different process for them so the quick detailer was a easy to use product. I like the meguairs line and would like to get into their professional series do you know anything about those ?


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jones2507
05-16-2017, 01:22 PM
I would stick to something made for rinse less washing such as the McKee rinseless wash solution or the optimum no rinse.

The meguiars quick detailer is for light touch ups its two differences.

I just looked up some of the McKee products they make a 37 that is a wash on the go spray on wipe off is this better than a quick detailer?


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Justin727
05-16-2017, 01:26 PM
Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere, waterless wash (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-wash-wax-anywhere.html)


I've used this many times with great success.

ravenquest
05-16-2017, 01:35 PM
As far as I understood it quick detailer is only for dust, not film. Film happens when dust or dirt becomes moist and bonds to the paint when that moisture evaporates. So if there is dew or even a good amount of humidity in the air when it cools down overnight, you'll see on your car fog spots and condensation; as soon as that dries it creates a film.

So a QD works fine for same day cleaning or if your car is left in a garage for fingerprints and dust.

Waterless Wash will fulfill your needs for a quick detailer that can remove light film, water spots, dust, pollen, bird poop (with proper technique). For bird poop I spray it with the WW and then use Mike's method: https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/car-detailing-how-article-mike-phillips/109964-how-safely-remove-dried-bird-dropping-mike-phillips.html I just hand wash the towel thoroughly instead of throwing it out, and keep specific towels for bird poop.