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BILLYWINGZERO1996
05-07-2017, 06:34 PM
Can someone from PBMG post these MSDS up?
BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection
BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray
BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal Paint Sealant

I just realize autogeek,blackfire,etc..etc..all fall under PBMG....which falls under 3M.
I have search the internet, and cant find these MSDS.

I have purchase these product from Autogeek..So my order information should be on file.

Thanks
Bill

FUNX650
05-07-2017, 06:39 PM
I just realize autogeek,blackfire,etc..etc..
all fall under PBMG....which falls under 3M.

WOW!
That's a new pecking order...?!?!


Bob

ronkh57
05-07-2017, 06:41 PM
mmm?

ronkh57
05-07-2017, 06:41 PM
<--- I go away for one day, and things change.

custmsprty
05-07-2017, 06:45 PM
3M??????????????

If you want msds sheets you'll need to contact them directly to request them, you won't get them on the forum.

Just ask former PBMG employee Nick Im the MAN

If you don't believe me check out this thread, you'll get my point.

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/108639-msds-mckee-s-37-high-intensity-apc.html

I work for one of the largest cleaning chemical distributors in the country, now owned by The Home Depot. Everyone of of the products we sell, the "sds" as they are referred to now are available to our custmers online.

BILLYWINGZERO1996
05-07-2017, 06:53 PM
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/company-forum-news-headlines/86696-better-understanding-pbmg-its-subsidiaries.html

Found the hierarchy above...posted by NICK.
Anyway, given that Blackfire,Autogeek, are basically fall under PBMG, I thought it would be easier to just to request the info on the forum... PBMG being the mothership...

I'll touch base with BF...or Autogeek tomorrow.. Just hoping someone had a copy or can direct me to a link that I can download. Thanks for feedback everyone

ronkh57
05-07-2017, 06:57 PM
Blackfire msds (per ron)
ingredients = good stuff
Protective equipment needed (after use) = sunglasses

Unexpected side effect = compliments

FUNX650
05-07-2017, 07:03 PM
In the USA:
All Consumer products have yet to
have been mandated, by Law, to
have their (M)SDSs distributed to
Consumers.

Key words are:
Consumer Products/Consumers.

**********************************

As to PBMG (and McKee's) requirements
to supply (M)SDSs...per Nick:

"(M)SDS information is intended for
shipping companies and distributors
that purchase our product in bulk.

Any consumer-related safety information
is on the bottle."

*************************************


Bob

custmsprty
05-07-2017, 07:06 PM
In the USA:
All Consumer products have yet to
have been mandated, by Law, to
have their (M)SDSs distributed to
Consumers.

Key words are:
Consumer Products/Consumers.

**********************************

As to PBMG (and McKee's) requirements
to supply (M)SDSs...per Nick:

"(M)SDS information is intended for
shipping companies and distributors
that purchase our product in bulk.

Any consumer-related safety information
is on the bottle."

*************************************


Bob

SC Johnson makes it pretty user friendly and easy for a "consumer" to find their Safet Data Sheets for their consumer prodcuts as they manufacture many of the top brand name household cleaning products.

SC Johnson Safety Data Sheets (SDS) Library - United States (http://www.scjohnson.com/en/products/msds/msds_united_states.aspx)

FUNX650
05-07-2017, 07:17 PM
SC Johnson makes it pretty user friendly and easy for a "consumer" to find their Safet Data Sheets for their consumer prodcuts.

So does Meguiar's...and many other
"Consumer" products manufacturers.

Now...
What bearing does that have on the
"Legal aspect" that I posted above?

That's right none, at the moment!



SC Johnson Safety Data Sheets (SDS) Library - United States (http://www.scjohnson.com/en/products/msds/msds_united_states.aspx)
^^^Is that a legal link?^^^
(per: AGO forum rules)



Bob

ronkh57
05-07-2017, 07:21 PM
Forgive me
I forgot to add one more safety item

Cervical collar for whiplash effect.

custmsprty
05-07-2017, 07:58 PM
[QUOTE=FUNX650;1489306]So does Meguiar's...and many other
"Consumer" products manufacturers.

Now...
What bearing does that have on the
"Legal aspect" that I posted above?

That's right none, at the moment!


^^^Is that a legal link?^^^
(per: AGO forum rules)

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

Audios S6
05-07-2017, 08:11 PM
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/company-forum-news-headlines/86696-better-understanding-pbmg-its-subsidiaries.html

Found the hierarchy above...posted by NICK.

Nick was using the 3M-Meguiars relationship as an analogy to the PBMG family

FUNX650
05-07-2017, 08:27 PM
Forgive me
I forgot to add one more safety item

Cervical collar for whiplash effect.
"Oh...the head bones connected
to the tail bones..."

https://media.giphy.com/media/2sDZi6t8RgJpK/giphy.gif



Bob

Setec Astronomy
05-07-2017, 08:30 PM
Anyway, back to the OP's question--no, you're not going to get a Blackfire MSDS unless you have a TIN, and even then you are going to have to fight for it (based on previous accounts, anyway).