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JChastain
05-05-2017, 06:16 AM
I need one that's safe for powdercoat and all the other finishes. Needs to be effective also of course. Thanks for the feedback

Setec Astronomy
05-05-2017, 06:21 AM
Effective in what sense? If you're looking to remove etched-in, baked-on brake dust, probably nothing short of an acid is going to work. If you have moderate "dirt", then one of the iron-eating or caustic cleaners should do the trick. And if the wheels are well maintained, then a detergent-type mild cleaner should be fine.

JChastain
05-05-2017, 06:29 AM
Is there any specific brand that's best? I meant effective as in it actually works. But I don't want it to compromise the wheels finish either...

Setec Astronomy
05-05-2017, 08:33 AM
Again, rather than brand, I think you need to think in categories...of which I can think of 4:

1. Acid
2. Caustic
3. Iron Eating
4. Detergent

Acids are the most effective at dissolving contaminants, and are usually safe for wheel finishes (except bare, depending) if rinsed properly.
Caustics can be good, sometimes can be harsh on finishes.
Iron eating is pretty effective on brake dust, but it depends, and they smell terrible. I sometimes thing the cool color-change makes people think these work better than they do.
Detergent is very mild and safe and not very effective except with agitation and on well maintained wheels.

If you want some brand names, here you go, and I expect a whole bunch of conflicting feedback shortly:

Acid: AFAIK, there are no acid wheel cleaners sold here that have an acid package I would consider safe for you to use in your driveway. Oh, except maybe the McKee's Foaming Wheel Cleaner Gel which may have salicylic acid in it.

Caustic: Mothers Foaming Wheel and Tire Cleaner comes to mind

Iron-eating: I haven't tried all of them, but one I like is Griot's Heavy Duty

Detergent: The classic P21S liquid or gel, and Griot's Wheel Cleaner

EWtheDETAILER
05-05-2017, 08:35 AM
Try Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner - SONAX Wheel Cleaner, all wheel cleaner, chrome wheel cleaner, aluminum wheel cleaner, full effect wheel cleaner (http://www.autogeek.net/sonax-wheel-cleaner.html)

This wheel cleaner is safe on all wheels and still a very strong and effective cleaner.

Cliffnopus
05-05-2017, 08:42 AM
+1 for Sonax.

Eldorado2k
05-05-2017, 08:59 AM
I thought powder coat was supposed to be tough as nails? What's the big deal? Just take your typical high alkaline wheel cleaner and go at it.

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JChastain
05-05-2017, 09:01 AM
I thought powder coat was supposed to be tough as nails? What's the big deal? Just take your typical high alkaline wheel cleaner and go at it.

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Looks good. Do you use a brush also with the cleaner?

Joe@NextLevelDetail
05-05-2017, 09:01 AM
I need one that's safe for powdercoat and all the other finishes. Needs to be effective also of course. Thanks for the feedback

McKee's 37 Foaming Wheel Cleaner Gel (http://www.autogeek.net/dp371.html) - Non acidic, and pH balanced. very strong effective wheel cleaner yet still safe. a great value as well.

A gallon is only 42.99 before sales.


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Eldorado2k
05-05-2017, 09:08 AM
Looks good. Do you use a brush also with the cleaner?

Yea, my trusty wheel brush that I get @the 99cent only store. [it looks like the Mothers Wheel Brush] but I bearly needed to do any scrubbing.

Setec Astronomy
05-05-2017, 09:19 AM
McKee's 37 Foaming Wheel Cleaner Gel (http://www.autogeek.net/dp371.html) - Non acidic, and pH balanced. very strong effective wheel cleaner yet still safe

The (very long) store blurb that you linked to doesn't say anywhere that this product is non-acid or pH balanced, and neither does the page at the McKee's site. Realizing that you work for the company, can we consider your statement above an official position? Or is this something that Nick needs to clarify? I'm simply asking because if that's the case it's usually mentioned on the product page. As a comparison, the Wolfgang Uber wheel cleaner states "Wolfgang Über Wheel Cleaner is non-acid and pH neutral"; since I presume Nick wrote the copy for both it would seem he would have included that statement for the M37 product as well.

Ancient1
05-05-2017, 09:27 AM
The best I have used so far has been Sonax WC+. It was only needed the 1st time on some very neglected rims, after that most any will work fine.

evo77
05-05-2017, 10:40 AM
If a wheel(s) has been heavily neglected (never washed in many months) and has caked on dirt/grime then I can see the use of a specific wheel cleaner.

But for a maintained wheel (washed regularly) why wouldn't a gentle car soap or rinseless/waterless wash be sufficient enough? I stopped wasting money on wheel cleaners because I can get my wheels perfectly cleaned with the aforementioned products.

Route246
05-05-2017, 11:20 AM
Personal experience with Sonax (very good) and Chemical Guys Diablo Gel (good). They are different. Both are neutral pH (non-acid). I get the impression that Sonax is great for stains and metal particles with light brushing required while Diablo is very good for general cleaning with a more vigorous brushing but it seems to have more detergent/soap in it go clean dust, dirt, mud, etc.

SANTA3013
05-05-2017, 12:11 PM
The best wheel and tire cleaner I have found. Dilute per instructions.

Flash Brown Royal Non-Acid Wheel & Tire Cleaner