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fightnews
04-25-2017, 10:00 AM
I just found a good deal on Blackfire Midnight Sun paste wax I want to pick some up but I need to know if it can be applied over polish Angel high gloss?

Can anybody help me out?

fightnews
04-25-2017, 03:40 PM
bumpity bump

ScottH
04-25-2017, 03:50 PM
I've used BF Midnight Sun over various polishes and AIO's - never Angel Polish specifically - but never had any problems. Is there something special about Angel polish that would suggest it couldn't be topped with a carnauba paste?

ScottH

FUNX650
04-25-2017, 04:18 PM
Sure...That'd be applying a
Carnauba Wax atop a Sealant.

Besides that...Why not create
a "different kind of shine"...of
your own accord. :xyxthumbs:


Bob

fightnews
04-26-2017, 05:06 AM
Sure...That'd be applying a
Carnauba Wax atop a Sealant.

Besides that...Why not create
a "different kind of shine"...of
your own accord. :xyxthumbs:


Bob

Is polish angel high gloss not a spray coating anymore? Why do u call it a sealant? I don't mind making a shine of my own but I would rather not use incompatible products.

fightnews
04-26-2017, 05:08 AM
You don't put a carnauba wax over a sio2 quartz or ceramic coating right? I'm not 100% sure on what type of coating can be topped and what coating can't if u don't mind educating me,

BadgerRivFan
04-26-2017, 06:02 AM
Topping PA High Gloss would be a waste of a very expensive product IMHO... Why would you want to do that?

If you are using Silica and Titania based products as your protection, stick with those. Does not make much sense to cover it up with a hybrid wax.

If you "must" top the High Gloss, use something like CarPro's Ech20.

You will not hurt anything by doing what you propose, but consider what you paid for that bottle of High Gloss. I would just enjoy the awesome glow of the PA product and leave it alone. (Just my 2¢)

FUNX650
04-26-2017, 07:03 AM
Is polish angel high gloss not a
spray coating anymore? Why do
u call it a sealant?

I'm not the only one that calls
High Gloss a Sealant. Polish Angel
does as well:

https://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_26773.JPG



I don't mind making a shine of my
own but I would rather not use
incompatible products.


You don't put a carnauba wax over
a sio2 quartz or ceramic coating right?
I'm not 100% sure on what type of
coating can be topped and what coating
can't if u don't mind educating me,
It seems like you're bringing up
this issue quite a lot...

From what source(s) are you getting
this "incompatibility"; and the "can't/don't"
top so-and-so-products with this-or-that?


Note:
Just as a FYI...99 times out of 100
I do not top/layer an LSP unless it's
with the same exact LSP---(to ensure
total/even coverage, as it were)---not
because of any chance-incompatibility
between LSP products.




Bob

fightnews
04-26-2017, 08:06 AM
Topping PA High Gloss would be a waste of a very expensive product IMHO... Why would you want to do that?

If you are using Silica and Titania based products as your protection, stick with those. Does not make much sense to cover it up with a hybrid wax.

If you "must" top the High Gloss, use something like CarPro's Ech20.

You will not hurt anything by doing what you propose, but consider what you paid for that bottle of High Gloss. I would just enjoy the awesome glow of the PA product and leave it alone. (Just my 2¢) the warm glow doesn't last forever after a couple weeks it's ready to be topped with something


I'm not the only one that calls
High Gloss a Sealant. Polish Angel
does as well:

https://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_26773.JPG


It seems like you're bringing up
this issue quite a lot...

From what source(s) are you getting
this "incompatibility"; and the "can't/don't"
top so-and-so-products with this-or-that?


Note:
Just as a FYI...99 times out of 100
I do not top/layer an LSP unless it's
with the same exact LSP---(to ensure
total/even coverage, as it were)---not
because of any chance-incompatibility
between LSP products.




Bob OK they also refer to it as a spray coating. You ask where I get the incompatibility thing from? It's a known thing that a lot of coatings canthe be topped with wax. Why do u think they came out with all these coating sprays. You can't just top most coatings with wax/sealant sprays or quick detailer. I'll look for information on why when I'm home but there is plenty out there on the incompatibility of coating and waxes.

Having said that some coatings are supposedly compatiable with wax. For example mckees coating I heard was compatible and synergy is half a coating half a wax. I keep bringing up the question is because no one can seem to answer it. I want to know if the polish angel high gloss is the type of coating that can be topped or can't be topped. Even polish angel customer service hasn't answered it. I have all wax sealant products in my arsenal besides synergy which obviously can be topped and polish angel high gloss that I'm up in the air with that's why I want to know if it can be topped

FUNX650
04-26-2017, 08:32 AM
It's a known thing that a lot of coatings
canthe be topped with wax. Why do u
think they came out with all these coating
sprays. You can't just top most coatings
with wax/sealant sprays or quick detailer.

I'll look for information on why when I'm
home but there is plenty out there on the
incompatibility of coating and waxes.

Having said that some coatings are
supposedly compatiable with wax.
For example mckees coating I heard
was compatible and synergy is half a
coating half a wax.

I want to know if the polish angel
high gloss is the type of coating that
can be topped or can't be topped.
Even polish angel customer
service hasn't answered it.

I have all wax sealant products in my
arsenal besides synergy which obviously
can be topped and polish angel high
gloss that I'm up in the air with that's
why I want to know if it can be topped

IMO:
You're going around the
same circle...but faster.

That's making progress... :dblthumb2:



Bob

fightnews
04-26-2017, 08:33 AM
It doesn't matter what lsp I have on it always looks best after a wash and a nice spray wax

FUNX650
04-26-2017, 08:36 AM
It doesn't matter what lsp I have on it
always looks best after a wash and a
nice spray wax
Doesn't the freshly applied Spray
Wax now become the actual Last
Step Product?



Bob

fightnews
04-26-2017, 09:25 AM
Doesn't the freshly applied Spray
Wax now become the actual Last
Step Product?



Bob

I don't think so I think it just adds to it. I feel I put say souveran wax on my car Monday then Friday I wash it and top it with miguiars on Friday the souveran is still there the miguiars just adds to it

fightnews
04-26-2017, 09:28 AM
It be nice if I could figure out what type of coatings can be topped with wax/sealant products and which ones can't. That's all I want to know

dennis hiip
04-26-2017, 09:36 AM
HG is supposedly the ultimate gloss lsp. Why cover it with a lesser gloss product.