Mike Phillips
04-19-2017, 10:20 AM
Detailing a beater! - 1972 Buick Riviera Boattail - Review: Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/109306-detailing-beater-1972-buick-riviera-boattail-review-lake-country-force-hybrid-foam-pads.html)
I work on new cars, old cars, customs, classis, muscle cars, streetrods, exotics and daily drivers... but my favorite type of cars to buff out are beaters! You know, cars that for the most part have been given up on and are dilapidated and a lot of the time, one gas tank away from the salvage yard.
1972 Buick Riviera Boattail Beater!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0001.JPG
This is a true barn find
I was discovered in a barn and put up for sale on eBay and long story short it found it's way here at Autogeek and my natural reaction after looking at it was to wash it and buff it out.
Here's what storing a car in a barn for around 20 years can do to the paint...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0011.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0021.JPG
Yes... that's called texture
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0031.JPG
And this is called rust
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0041.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0051.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0061.JPG
Review: Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads
Our good friends and sponsor of our TV show Competition Ready just introduced these new pads primarily for the FLEX 3401 and rotary buffers.
Since I was going to buff out this car anyway I decided to test out the more aggressive pads in this new line including the first three pads on the left hand side,
Force Hybrid Blue Wool Pad, Force Hybrid Grey Pad and Force Hybrid Orange Pad
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/The_BEAST.JPG
Here's my review
The grey cutting pad is stiff. Like really stiff and hard. The foam is sharp and it's a fast cutting pad. For this type of buffing, that is using a one-step cleaner/wax it was too stiff to work the rough, textured paint.
The blue wool pad is fluffy. I think this pad would work well for neglected clearcoat paints but on this old rough single stage paint it was cutting it well but not leaving the gloss I was looking for out of doing only one-step.
The orange cutting pad was perfect. This pad offers more flexibility than the grey pad and more stiffness than the wool pad and it felt good churning and turning the HD Speed over this severely neglected paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0071.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0081.JPG
More pads are better
I only had a single sample of each pad so after buffing out the front clip using the three new Force Hybrid pads I then switched over to the normal 6.5" Hybrid Blue Foam Cutting pads to finish the car. In a lot of my posts you see me recommending that when doing any compounding, polishing or when using one-step cleaner/waxes, to use lots of pads. The reason why is because when using foam pads, the foam will become wet with product and when this happens performance falls off. So you get better results and can work faster by switching to a fresh pad often. For this car I used 9 pads altogether.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0091.JPG
And here's the results using only a one-step cleaner/wax and then punishing the FLEX 3401 aka the BEAST!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0101.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0111.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0121.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0131.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0141.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0151.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0161.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0171.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0181.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0191.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0201.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0211.JPG
Yeah... it's not perfect but it's the best it's ever going to get. See my article here,
"Taking your car's paint to it's maximum potential" (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/27081-taking-your-car-s-paint-s-maximum-potential.html)
The new pads?
They're great. When you finally wear out your normal pads you turn and churn on the FLEX 3401 or a rotary buffer, switch over to these.
On Autogeek.com
Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-power-finish-pads.html) - 6.5"
Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/5-inch-hybrid-pads.html) - 5.5 inch
Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/force-hybrid-pads-3inch.html) - 3.5 inch
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/Lake_Country_Force_Hybrid_Foam_Buffing_Pads1.jpg
:)
I work on new cars, old cars, customs, classis, muscle cars, streetrods, exotics and daily drivers... but my favorite type of cars to buff out are beaters! You know, cars that for the most part have been given up on and are dilapidated and a lot of the time, one gas tank away from the salvage yard.
1972 Buick Riviera Boattail Beater!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0001.JPG
This is a true barn find
I was discovered in a barn and put up for sale on eBay and long story short it found it's way here at Autogeek and my natural reaction after looking at it was to wash it and buff it out.
Here's what storing a car in a barn for around 20 years can do to the paint...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0011.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0021.JPG
Yes... that's called texture
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0031.JPG
And this is called rust
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0041.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0051.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0061.JPG
Review: Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads
Our good friends and sponsor of our TV show Competition Ready just introduced these new pads primarily for the FLEX 3401 and rotary buffers.
Since I was going to buff out this car anyway I decided to test out the more aggressive pads in this new line including the first three pads on the left hand side,
Force Hybrid Blue Wool Pad, Force Hybrid Grey Pad and Force Hybrid Orange Pad
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/The_BEAST.JPG
Here's my review
The grey cutting pad is stiff. Like really stiff and hard. The foam is sharp and it's a fast cutting pad. For this type of buffing, that is using a one-step cleaner/wax it was too stiff to work the rough, textured paint.
The blue wool pad is fluffy. I think this pad would work well for neglected clearcoat paints but on this old rough single stage paint it was cutting it well but not leaving the gloss I was looking for out of doing only one-step.
The orange cutting pad was perfect. This pad offers more flexibility than the grey pad and more stiffness than the wool pad and it felt good churning and turning the HD Speed over this severely neglected paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0071.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0081.JPG
More pads are better
I only had a single sample of each pad so after buffing out the front clip using the three new Force Hybrid pads I then switched over to the normal 6.5" Hybrid Blue Foam Cutting pads to finish the car. In a lot of my posts you see me recommending that when doing any compounding, polishing or when using one-step cleaner/waxes, to use lots of pads. The reason why is because when using foam pads, the foam will become wet with product and when this happens performance falls off. So you get better results and can work faster by switching to a fresh pad often. For this car I used 9 pads altogether.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0091.JPG
And here's the results using only a one-step cleaner/wax and then punishing the FLEX 3401 aka the BEAST!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0101.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0111.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0121.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0131.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0141.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0151.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0161.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0171.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0181.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0191.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0201.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0211.JPG
Yeah... it's not perfect but it's the best it's ever going to get. See my article here,
"Taking your car's paint to it's maximum potential" (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/27081-taking-your-car-s-paint-s-maximum-potential.html)
The new pads?
They're great. When you finally wear out your normal pads you turn and churn on the FLEX 3401 or a rotary buffer, switch over to these.
On Autogeek.com
Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-power-finish-pads.html) - 6.5"
Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/5-inch-hybrid-pads.html) - 5.5 inch
Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/force-hybrid-pads-3inch.html) - 3.5 inch
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/Lake_Country_Force_Hybrid_Foam_Buffing_Pads1.jpg
:)