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Mike Phillips
04-19-2017, 10:20 AM
Detailing a beater! - 1972 Buick Riviera Boattail - Review: Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/109306-detailing-beater-1972-buick-riviera-boattail-review-lake-country-force-hybrid-foam-pads.html)


I work on new cars, old cars, customs, classis, muscle cars, streetrods, exotics and daily drivers... but my favorite type of cars to buff out are beaters! You know, cars that for the most part have been given up on and are dilapidated and a lot of the time, one gas tank away from the salvage yard.


1972 Buick Riviera Boattail Beater!

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0001.JPG



This is a true barn find
I was discovered in a barn and put up for sale on eBay and long story short it found it's way here at Autogeek and my natural reaction after looking at it was to wash it and buff it out.


Here's what storing a car in a barn for around 20 years can do to the paint...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0011.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0021.JPG



Yes... that's called texture

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0031.JPG



And this is called rust

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0041.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0051.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0061.JPG




Review: Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads

Our good friends and sponsor of our TV show Competition Ready just introduced these new pads primarily for the FLEX 3401 and rotary buffers.

Since I was going to buff out this car anyway I decided to test out the more aggressive pads in this new line including the first three pads on the left hand side,

Force Hybrid Blue Wool Pad, Force Hybrid Grey Pad and Force Hybrid Orange Pad

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/The_BEAST.JPG


Here's my review

The grey cutting pad is stiff. Like really stiff and hard. The foam is sharp and it's a fast cutting pad. For this type of buffing, that is using a one-step cleaner/wax it was too stiff to work the rough, textured paint.

The blue wool pad is fluffy. I think this pad would work well for neglected clearcoat paints but on this old rough single stage paint it was cutting it well but not leaving the gloss I was looking for out of doing only one-step.

The orange cutting pad was perfect. This pad offers more flexibility than the grey pad and more stiffness than the wool pad and it felt good churning and turning the HD Speed over this severely neglected paint.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0071.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0081.JPG



More pads are better
I only had a single sample of each pad so after buffing out the front clip using the three new Force Hybrid pads I then switched over to the normal 6.5" Hybrid Blue Foam Cutting pads to finish the car. In a lot of my posts you see me recommending that when doing any compounding, polishing or when using one-step cleaner/waxes, to use lots of pads. The reason why is because when using foam pads, the foam will become wet with product and when this happens performance falls off. So you get better results and can work faster by switching to a fresh pad often. For this car I used 9 pads altogether.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0091.JPG



And here's the results using only a one-step cleaner/wax and then punishing the FLEX 3401 aka the BEAST!

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0101.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0111.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0121.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0131.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0141.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0151.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0161.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0171.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0181.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0191.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0201.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/1972_Riviera_0211.JPG



Yeah... it's not perfect but it's the best it's ever going to get. See my article here,


"Taking your car's paint to it's maximum potential" (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/27081-taking-your-car-s-paint-s-maximum-potential.html)




The new pads?

They're great. When you finally wear out your normal pads you turn and churn on the FLEX 3401 or a rotary buffer, switch over to these.



On Autogeek.com


Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-power-finish-pads.html) - 6.5"


Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/5-inch-hybrid-pads.html) - 5.5 inch


Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/force-hybrid-pads-3inch.html) - 3.5 inch







http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/Lake_Country_Force_Hybrid_Foam_Buffing_Pads1.jpg




:)

dragan75
04-19-2017, 10:22 AM
Nice beatiful car and collor

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Mike Phillips
04-19-2017, 10:23 AM
Continued....


Here's some info on each pad


Lake Country Force Hybrid Foam Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country-hybrid-pads.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/Lake_Country_Force_Hybrid_Pads_002.jpg






And the one-step cleaner/wax I used was


3D HD Speed - 32 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/3d-hd-speed-32.html)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/HD_Speed1.jpg


Also available in 16 ounce


3D HD Speed - 16 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/3d-hd-speed.html)


:)

BadgerRivFan
04-19-2017, 10:39 AM
Beater? You're killing me Mike! LOL...

Great car! The '71-'73 Boattail Riv's are truly "love 'em or hate 'em" cars. Not a lot of gray area with this body style as far as how people feel about them. My first Riv was a '73 GS. I love the boattails and it's great to see an original car like this one preserved. Make sure the owner joins the Riviera Owners Association!

adamgayton81
04-19-2017, 10:59 AM
Not too shabby Mike! Looks pretty good for what it was.


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Mike Phillips
04-19-2017, 12:46 PM
Nice beatiful car and collor




The color is interesting. In person it looks like a Jolly Rancher Sour Apple

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/Jolly_Wrancher_Sour_Apple.jpg







Beater? You're killing me Mike! LOL...

Great car! The '71-'73 Boattail Riv's are truly "love 'em or hate 'em" cars. Not a lot of gray area with this body style as far as how people feel about them. My first Riv was a '73 GS. I love the boattails and it's great to see an original car like this one preserved. Make sure the owner joins the Riviera Owners Association!



I'll share the link to this thread with the owner.






Not too shabby Mike! Looks pretty good for what it was.




Thanks, I agree. Especially when besides washing the heck out of her the only other thing I did was go around it ONE TIME with the BEAST, some primarily foam pads and an AIO


:)

damaged442
04-19-2017, 12:57 PM
Love those Riv boattails!! I will own one eventually! Great car with very unique styling!!

Excellent work again, sir!

dragan75
04-19-2017, 01:10 PM
The color is interesting. In person it looks like a Jolly Rancher Sour Apple

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3403/Jolly_Wrancher_Sour_Apple.jpg






I'll share the link to this thread with the owner.






Thanks, I agree. Especially when besides washing the heck out of her the only other thing I did was go around it ONE TIME with the BEAST, some primarily foam pads and an AIO


:)
I was thinkthat is green like english like jaguar or rover? I like old american cars they have soul today to much plastic...for me

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Mike Phillips
04-19-2017, 04:22 PM
I was thinkthat is green like english like jaguar or rover?



The pictures of the car make it look darker than it looks in person, it's actually a brighter green, looks like a candy green.





I like old american cars they have soul today to much plastic...for me



I agree. That's one of the reason I drive old Chevy trucks. Paint and chrome. No plastic.


:)

Klasse Act
04-19-2017, 04:27 PM
The car came out great for what it is!

What state is that car from?

MarkD51
04-19-2017, 05:06 PM
Nice! A shame no interior shots.
Love the Rivs, probably a nice paint job would have this baby looking sweet again. Jeff Beck 7Up Candy would look nice, like one of his Fender Strats!

Honestly, I think I'd rather own one of these, than a lot of the plastic front wheel drive crap they're making today for $30K-$40K. Good to have some real "iron" around you.

As an old friend once told me. you don't want your Gravestone to read "He got 50 MPG".

Rsurfer
04-19-2017, 05:24 PM
Mike, was that ss paint? Pads didn't show much color.

dragan75
04-19-2017, 05:30 PM
The pictures of the car make it look darker than it looks in person, it's actually a brighter green, looks like a candy green.




I agree. That's one of the reason I drive old Chevy trucks. Paint and chrome. No plastic.


:)
Yes never enaf hrom and candy collors...bicouse of that i by my bike in america...just bicouse of hrom...aaaa its like adrug for me shine shine and shine..
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BillyJack
04-19-2017, 09:04 PM
Cool ride, Mike! Nice work for a one-step!
Always nice to see you bring one back from hibernation.

I, too, am a Boat-tail fan. Had a '73 back in the mid to late 70's, eventually trading it for a Corvette. Unfortunately, the bumper laws of '73 corrupted the true boattail look of your '72, but I still cherished it. Got around fairly well for such a heavy thing with a de-smogged 455, Turbo 400, true dual exhaust and police package suspension. I maintained it with Meguiar's #3,#7 and Classic Slipstream.
Scan of an old instamatic pic isn't that great, but I had to share for all the Riv fans that posted:

http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/kaminokids/73BuickRiv.jpg

Bill

Aaryn NZ
04-20-2017, 03:24 AM
Nice work Mike. :props:

Cool car too, I like the lines on these, that mix of sharpness, coupled with the flowing curves . . . works for me.
Anyhow, the pads - Mike, do these Force pads align in their makeup to other Lake Country pads of the same colour? Such as LC Hybrid orange or cyan to the Force orange?

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2: