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Edwin Ako
04-05-2017, 03:42 PM
New user and first post!
I'll introduce myself first. Been an on and off customer at autogeek for some years. I'm taking the detailing for my car to a somewhat higher level, I got a PC7424 finally, and some pads to go with it (thanks to autogeek for the deal!). I've come to these forums and searched questions and gotten answers every now and then. I enjoy detailing my car, but since I have a family with kids, time is quite limited now-a-days.
I'm super excited now though! I got a new car, new tools, and the chance to detail it and make it look great (but not exactly the way I want)! It's a low mile '14 Fusion, with Dark Side exterior, leather dune interior. A quick inspection of it tells me a base of dark green with green and blue flakes. It looks like color shifts with lighting. This will be my daily driver.
Anyways, it's got some light swirl marks that I aim to correct. But because of time constraints, I've been looking into an AIO and based on discussions on this forum and from what I have heard elsewhere, I have decided on:

- 3D HD Speed
- Mckee 37 360
- Poorboy Polish and Seal

On to the questions!
Out of these three, which of these have the warmer, wet paint look? I am not a big fan of very glossy reflection look. I understand that perhaps an AIO can't get the look I'm going for. If so, that's okay. If I can knock 2-3 steps with 1, I will do it gladly and sacrifice preference :)

Is there a specific QW you can recommend to maintain/boost the sealer? Or can I just grab any from over the counter? Ditto for a QD?

Thanks!!
Edwin

WaxMaster1
04-05-2017, 03:48 PM
Hi Edwin, welcome to the forum and congrats on the new car! I only have experience with HD Speed and it is a great All in one. I most recently used it on my parent's Honda with silvery green paint and the metallic flake just POPPED!!! I would go with the Speed and perhaps top it with a Souveran paste or maybe Wolfgang Fuzion spray wax.......perhaps fitting for a Ford Fusion to get that extra wet look you're looking for.

Edwin Ako
04-05-2017, 04:00 PM
The Wolfgang Fuzion spray wax is just the thing I'm looking for! Thanks for the guidance WaxMaster1!

custmsprty
04-05-2017, 04:10 PM
HD Speed and top it with HD Poxy for extended protection and deep wet shine, and they are synergistic as they are made by the same company and Speed has Poxy in it. You can put a coat of Poxy on with a da in about 20 minutes.

This is important, Speed is designed to be worked in and left to cure before wiping off, that is absolutely key to maximizing the effects of the Poxy in it.

Speed and Poxy 5 hours start to finish on this beauty. That included washing, etc.

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/BMW435iA_zpsiplglhfq.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/BMW435iA_zpsiplglhfq.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/BMW1_zpsysrd58bv.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/BMW1_zpsysrd58bv.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/BMW2_zps9wknlgbh.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/BMW2_zps9wknlgbh.jpg.html)

Edwin Ako
04-05-2017, 04:14 PM
That is slick!! Nice job and thanks for the advice custmsprty! I will definately look into buying Speed Poxy as well!

custmsprty
04-05-2017, 04:17 PM
That is slick!! Nice job and thanks for the advice custmsprty! I will definately look into buy Speed Poxy as well!

And the best part is how affordable the HD Products are, a 16oz bottle of each before any sales or discounts $29.98!!

That'll do your vehicle many, many, many............times :buffing:

3D HD Speed (http://www.autogeek.net/3d-hd-speed.html)

3D HD Poxy - Montan Wax & Sealant NEW LOOK! (http://www.autogeek.net/3d-hd-poxy.html)

And get this to maintain the Poxy, $10.99, you can buy me some beers with the extra money I saved you :cheers:

3D HD Express Quick Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/3d-hd-express.html)

Speed and Poxy

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/20150502_134735_zpstmkx1vwd.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/20150502_134735_zpstmkx1vwd.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/2015-05-02%2014.59.05_zpstgfowhzb.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/2015-05-02%2014.59.05_zpstgfowhzb.jpg.html)

986DTM
04-05-2017, 04:54 PM
I was looking at HD Speed but went with Menzerna 3 in 1 because it has more cut. You'll get the job done quicker if you don't have to work the product as long to get the results you're after, especially if you're like me and don't have a "big boy" polisher like a flex or rupes. That's not to say you can't get good results with the other products, you'll just have to use a more aggressive pad or be willing to do some extra passes. For me the point of an AIO is the get the best results as fast as possible, so it makes sense to get the one with the most cut that still finishes nicely.

This is a handy reference:

UPDATED 9/2015: Autopia Polish Comparison Chart (http://www.autopia.org/forums/paint-correction-and-gloss-enhancement/181138-updated-9-2015-autopia-polish-comparison-chart.html)

custmsprty
04-05-2017, 05:11 PM
I was looking at HD Speed but went with Menzerna 3 in 1 because it has more cut. You'll get the job done quicker if you don't have to work the product as long to get the results you're after, especially if you're like me and don't have a "big boy" polisher like a flex or rupes. That's not to say you can't get good results with the other products, you'll just have to use a more aggressive pad or be willing to do some extra passes. For me the point of an AIO is the get the best results as fast as possible, so it makes sense to get the one with the most cut that still finishes nicely.

This is a handy reference:

UPDATED 9/2015: Autopia Polish Comparison Chart (http://www.autopia.org/forums/paint-correction-and-gloss-enhancement/181138-updated-9-2015-autopia-polish-comparison-chart.html)

I have Menzerna 3-n-1 too and yes it's a great product, but I personally found Speed to be much more user friendly. Speed gave me a longer working time and was way easier to remove, just my personal experience from using and comparing both products. I reach for Speed before Menzerna.

Here'a a great compariosn thread on the two, well worth the read:

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/products-guides/94790-menzerna-3in1-vs-hd-speed.html

986DTM
04-05-2017, 05:41 PM
No experience with speed but I can see what you're saying regarding 3 in 1's user friendliness. I do find it is somewhat smeary on removal; similar to FG400 but not as bad. I usually go over the car with a QD when I am finished wiping it off. I could see myself using HD Speed as maintenance product on my personal (already corrected) car every few months but when I do cars for friends or family I really value having some extra cut.

Edwin Ako
04-05-2017, 06:36 PM
It looks like the Menzerna is a great product 986DTM. Going by the graph you sent, it may be too aggressive for my paint. It has light swirls and light scratches. Although I think it would work great on more neglected cars ;) which definitely will benefit from Menzerna's cutting property. So I will end up buying this when mom eventually says she'd like that I clean her car :)

briarpatch
04-05-2017, 07:02 PM
I've used McKees 360 and HD Speed, and Speed is my choice between those two. I thought it was easier to remove, and brought out the metallic better than McKees. This is a 12 year-old daily driver, with 125k on the odometer....never seen the inside of a garage, and I'm pretty sure it had never been waxed, done with Speed. I only wish I'd had some sunshine to take the pics:



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PaulMys
04-05-2017, 07:05 PM
Another vote for HD Speed.

It corrects a lightly swirled paint with great results, is an absolute joy to apply & remove, almost zero dusting, smells awesome, and in my case here in NY, you can use it in direct sunlight if you're smart about the size of your work area.