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LSNAutoDetailing
03-12-2017, 06:57 PM
So I learned that the state I'm moving too does not require front license plates.
Both my Mustangs have the front license plate holders... .UGHH...

I'm wondering how difficult it would be to repair the front bumper covers... One of the stangs has PPF on her.

I really wished they didn't drill those things into the bumper cover, rather use 3m automotive tape. :(

atgonzales
03-12-2017, 07:10 PM
Try this first....https://www.bumperplugs.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_11


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Eldorado2k
03-12-2017, 07:41 PM
You're lucky. I wish California didn't make us display our license plates in the front. If they didn't I'd surely have something like this up front.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170313/6791359a9b68628850ffcfee2aaa4c0f.jpg

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CarolinasFinestDetailing
03-12-2017, 08:53 PM
Try this first....https://www.bumperplugs.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_11


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This. Ordered a set for both my cars when I moved from Syracuse to Charlotte.

Coopers ST
03-12-2017, 10:00 PM
My Focus came with holes drilled in the grille. I would have walked, but my other car was already sold, and this was the only ST around. I went to O'Rielys and got a body molding plug. Looks like the one posted above, but was $3 or $4 for 4 of them. They are black, but so is my grille. My guess is they could be painted with touch up paint easily and be better than the holes. I also live in a two state plate, but my second plate is in the rear hatch.

LSNAutoDetailing
03-13-2017, 07:29 AM
You're lucky. I wish California didn't make us display our license plates in the front. If they didn't I'd surely have something like this up front.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170313/6791359a9b68628850ffcfee2aaa4c0f.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170313/369a052c88c48a286074df833e0387bf.jpg


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Cadillac plates would look really funny on two Mustangs! :-) heheh.

Thanks Atgonzales! That's just what the dr ordered!

atgonzales
03-13-2017, 07:54 AM
You are welcome Paul and if ever have to go back front plates try this....

55592


http://hwww.cjponyparts.com/license-plate-bracket-sto-n-sho-rtr-2013-2014/p/LPB36/

I have it on my 2014 Mustang

Cruzscarwash
03-13-2017, 07:57 AM
You can get the plugs at Lowe's for like 10¢ each, I bought them for all four of my cars. They were in the hardware aisle.

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davidc
03-13-2017, 10:53 AM
So I learned that the state I'm moving too does not require front license plates.
Both my Mustangs have the front license plate holders... .UGHH...

I'm wondering how difficult it would be to repair the front bumper covers... One of the stangs has PPF on her.

I really wished they didn't drill those things into the bumper cover, rather use 3m automotive tape. :(

We use to have dual plates long ago and I hated it. When they did away with it I was free to use any after market plate I wanted to but now for the rear plate it is illegal to have a plate holder that covers "ARIZONA" on the top middle of the plate. Seems somebody has to always screw around with something.

Dave

LSNAutoDetailing
03-13-2017, 11:01 AM
We use to have dual plates long ago and I hated it. When they did away with it I was free to use any after market plate I wanted to but now for the rear plate it is illegal to have a plate holder that covers "ARIZONA" on the top middle of the plate. Seems somebody has to always screw around with something.

Dave

You've got to be kidding!!!???!!! I guess I can reverse (I hope) the Alpine Backup Camera License Plate holder:
I guess my State Motto is out the window the minute I exit the boarder! :)


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davidc
03-13-2017, 11:37 AM
55595

If it looks like this at the top it is a possibility of a ticket. Now I removed mine when this happened (really PI**ED me off) but I do see that style now and then still going down the road. I guess it depends if you want to play Russian Roulette.

Dave

LSNAutoDetailing
03-13-2017, 11:41 AM
I called the folks who installed my Alpine High Def camera/frame (it's all in one by Alpine). He said you just reverse the frame and camera. I may have to give some slack to the camera wire which is tucked behind a panel. Should be good to go!

davidc
03-13-2017, 12:02 PM
Here is how it all went down.

License-plate frames that celebrate your favorite college or sports team become illegal next month if the frame obscures the state's name.

Starting Jan. 1, police can stop you if "Arizona" isn't clearly visible at the top of the plate. Violators will be fined an average of $135, plus court fees, depending on the city where the violation is discovered.

Law-enforcement officials say the law will help officers differentiate between in-state and out-of-state vehicles, a difficult task given the state's profusion of specialty plates. Arizona issues license plates in more than 60 styles, from a plate honoring amateur radio operators to one that promotes wildlife conservation.

The Legislature passed the new-plate law in 2006, but delayed implementation until 2009.

"If a witness can tell us that a vehicle has an Arizona plate because they can clearly see it, that helps us immensely," said Harold Sanders, a spokesman for the state Department of Public Safety.

Critics say the law is likely to cause confusion among Arizona residents, who are largely unaware of the new rules.

"It's going to cause a lot of headaches for consumers," said Bobbi Sparrow, president of the Arizona Automobile Dealers Association. "Consumers who have had their old frames for years and years are now going to be illegal."

Implementation of the law was delayed to give auto dealers, which use plate frames as a cheap form of advertising, time to redesign.

Some motorists said they were uncertain whether they would be in violation of the new law.

Daren Baker, a software engineer from Scottsdale, has a dealer frame on his Land Rover. With "Arizona" only partially obscured, he wasn't certain whether he would be pulled over.

"Who's going to enforce that?" asked Baker, 34. "It doesn't seem like a great use of officers' time."

It will be up to officers to determine whether "Arizona" is clearly visible. Sanders said most violations would be obvious. Drivers with out-of-state plates are exempt from the law.

With less than a month before the new law takes effect, the Arizona Motor Vehicle Division is encouraging motorists to check their plates. There are about 6.7 million registered vehicles in the state, and no one can say how many might be affected.

"Most people only go look at their license plate when they put their new sticker on when they renew their registration," said Cydney DeModica, an MVD spokeswoman. "The real bottom line here is that everyone should walk around and look at their license-plate holders on the back of their cars."

It's advice that even lawmakers need to hear. On Tuesday, half the 26 vehicles in the Arizona Senate parking lot bore frames obscuring the word "Arizona."

Dave

LSNAutoDetailing
03-13-2017, 05:50 PM
Here is how it all went down.

License-plate frames that celebrate your favorite college or sports team become illegal next month if the frame obscures the state's name.

Starting Jan. 1, police can stop you if "Arizona" isn't clearly visible at the top of the plate. Violators will be fined an average of $135, plus court fees, depending on the city where the violation is discovered.

Law-enforcement officials say the law will help officers differentiate between in-state and out-of-state vehicles, a difficult task given the state's profusion of specialty plates. Arizona issues license plates in more than 60 styles, from a plate honoring amateur radio operators to one that promotes wildlife conservation.

The Legislature passed the new-plate law in 2006, but delayed implementation until 2009.

"If a witness can tell us that a vehicle has an Arizona plate because they can clearly see it, that helps us immensely," said Harold Sanders, a spokesman for the state Department of Public Safety.

Critics say the law is likely to cause confusion among Arizona residents, who are largely unaware of the new rules.

"It's going to cause a lot of headaches for consumers," said Bobbi Sparrow, president of the Arizona Automobile Dealers Association. "Consumers who have had their old frames for years and years are now going to be illegal."

Implementation of the law was delayed to give auto dealers, which use plate frames as a cheap form of advertising, time to redesign.

Some motorists said they were uncertain whether they would be in violation of the new law.

Daren Baker, a software engineer from Scottsdale, has a dealer frame on his Land Rover. With "Arizona" only partially obscured, he wasn't certain whether he would be pulled over.

"Who's going to enforce that?" asked Baker, 34. "It doesn't seem like a great use of officers' time."

It will be up to officers to determine whether "Arizona" is clearly visible. Sanders said most violations would be obvious. Drivers with out-of-state plates are exempt from the law.

With less than a month before the new law takes effect, the Arizona Motor Vehicle Division is encouraging motorists to check their plates. There are about 6.7 million registered vehicles in the state, and no one can say how many might be affected.

"Most people only go look at their license plate when they put their new sticker on when they renew their registration," said Cydney DeModica, an MVD spokeswoman. "The real bottom line here is that everyone should walk around and look at their license-plate holders on the back of their cars."

It's advice that even lawmakers need to hear. On Tuesday, half the 26 vehicles in the Arizona Senate parking lot bore frames obscuring the word "Arizona."

Dave

Thanks Dave!!! I was ignorant until your post... Now it's going to cost me $350!!! I liked being ignorant! :)

So I called Alpine, and they said there is no way that the frame can be reversed upside down. The camera and mounting unit are all integrated. I said, "that's stupid".
They had no idea about AZ law, thus I then informed them by sending the same info you gave to me.

I called a car audio dealer in Chandler and spoke to a cool guy who said "no problems..." We have license plate backup cameras that are slim-line and will display the state name. He did say he has more options as well. The Slim Line option with Hi-Def 3 View Camera is $350.00 installed.

He did go on to say that law was passed three years ago, and has become somewhat lax...He has sold many Alpine kits like mine and no one has reported getting pulled over. That remains to be seen and I will certainly want to remain legal... Life is easy when you play by the rules! I like easy!

So looks like I'll have options... just getting their first is where my priorities lie. Thanks again!

davidc
03-13-2017, 06:36 PM
Better a heads up from me than a person in uniform with flashing lights having a bad day. I have not heard of anyone being cited also but there is always the chance. Sorry to hear of a 350 new system but better than 350 + 140ish for the ticket I guess. Good luck with the move.

Dave