Gtechniq W4 vs W5?

[bluedoggiant]

Hey guys, I am new here. A few weeks ago I had Gtechniq CS applied on my car professionally by a reputable installer. The owner of the place advised I could wash my car using the drive in bays (no brush) then drying. He mentioned a foam cannon too. I live in the city in a condo, don’t have a driveway or really an easy way to wash the car my self (2 bucket method), so I am using his suggestion.


First time washing it, the soap in the bays was not strong enough to remove the road grime particularly on the doors. I am interested in buying W4 or W5 and putting it into one of those spray pump bottles you find at home depot gardening to coat the car first to help loosen the road grime before hitting with the power washer.


The owner of the shop said W4 is more concentrated/foamy, otherwise they’re the same. Which would be best for me?


I don’t want to wash my car again and then just rub the road grime into the paint when drying and destroy this expensive coating.


Thank you all!

[Detailsbydaniel]

Check out the new McKees n914 rinseless wash. It leaves nothing behind so your coating will remain untouched but be squeaky clean. Rinseless is awesome for your situation. Buy some distilled water from the store as well and you will be happy.

[bluedoggiant]

Check out the new McKees n914 rinseless wash. It leaves nothing behind so your coating will remain untouched but be squeaky clean. Rinseless is awesome for your situation. Buy some distilled water from the store as well and you will be happy.

Awesome, can you tell me more? I am only starting to wash my own car and know next to nothing about auto detailing, this new impressive coating is whats motivating me to get into it and I want to do it right to preserve the finish and durability of the coating.

I found the product: McKee’s 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/mckees-rinseless-wash.html)

Are you suggesting I dilute at the rinseless or waterless ratio on that page with bottled water?

What would my method be? Put that solution into the hand pump spray bottle then just dry, no power washing?

Thank you for your help!

[The Guz]

Joe has an excellent review on it that can give you some tips on how to use it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/107590-review-mckees-37-n-914-rinseless-wash-%7C-my-jeep-i-have-not-washed-over-month.html

This should give you a good idea as well

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x121/tropicaldetailing/washsolution2.jpg


This is also a good write up

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/103632-how-wash-coated-car-gentle-approach-washing-car-mike-phillips.html

[Detailsbydaniel]

Awesome, can you tell me more? I am only starting to wash my own car and know next to nothing about auto detailing, this new impressive coating is whats motivating me to get into it and I want to do it right to preserve the finish and durability of the coating.

I found the product: McKee’s 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/mckees-rinseless-wash.html)

Are you suggesting I dilute at the rinseless or waterless ratio on that page with bottled water?

What would my method be? Put that solution into the hand pump spray bottle then just dry, no power washing?

Thank you for your help!

The bottle comes with dilution ratios on the back of it. As far as the process I will pressure wash with water if the vehicle is very dirty, if it's just typical road grime then I will not use the pressure wash pre rinse. After I'm ready to start I use waterless ratio as a pre rinse and I do one panel at a time, let pre rinse dwell for a min or so. In the bucket that has your rinseless solution mixed up use the rinseless mit or microfiber towel and wash the panel. After the wash I dry and continue this until the vehicle is complete.

Research the Gary dean wash method for how to use the towels. I never use the same towel or same side once it's been used once during a wash.

Keep some junky towels for your wheels and do them at the very end.

[bluedoggiant]

Thank you all for your input. I have read your sources. I was wondering if it was reasonable/effective/safe to pressure wash the car, spray pump that n914 solution at the waterless wash ratio, then pressure wash again, then maybe spray a drying aid, then dry?

Sorry I am so new to this, I do have dirty rags already. I am using these towels to dry, are they a solid bet? Super Soft Deluxe Microfiber Towels, microfiber detailing towels, microfiber buffing towels, detail cloth, micro fiber (http://www.autogeek.net/super-soft-microfiber-towels-6.html)

[bluedoggiant]

Thank you all for your input. I have read your sources. I was wondering if it was reasonable/effective/safe to pressure wash the car, spray pump that n914 solution at the waterless wash ratio, then pressure wash again, then maybe spray a drying aid, then dry?

Sorry I am so new to this, I do have dirty rags already. I am using these towels to dry, are they a solid bet? Super Soft Deluxe Microfiber Towels, microfiber detailing towels, microfiber buffing towels, detail cloth, micro fiber (http://www.autogeek.net/super-soft-microfiber-towels-6.html)

anyone?? Is the technique I described above viable? Or will I scratch the paint because I will have pressure washed the car after soaping and therefore removing the lubricity of the soap while still leaving a film of road grime? (That's why I suggested a drying aid?) I would love to buy everything I need before this auto geek sale ends!!

in other words, is there really no way around getting two buckets and getting my hands dirty that way? Or I have to wipe the grime off using a waterless wash but there's no way saturating my car in a solution then pressure washing will remove grime?

i thought the Gtechniq coating was supposed to make maintenance a little easier in that grime doesn't stick as hard to the paint.

thank you guys!

[The Guz]

You are still going to need to wash with a wash mitt. A pressure washer with soap is not going to get the road film off.

No need to overthink it. Wash the car with good technique and you will be fine.

Another good video on washing a car


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2uSYvuLucA&t=364s

[bluedoggiant]

You are still going to need to wash with a wash mitt. A pressure washer with soap is not going to get the road film off.

No need to overthink it. Wash the car with good technique and you will be fine.

Another good video on washing a car


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2uSYvuLucA&t=364s

Thank you for the video, just watched it. What's your recommendation for a wash mitt? And is it even necessary? Couldn't I use the towels from that 12 pack I bought to wash, then buy a big absorbent towel like the one in the video and use that to dry the whole car?

Secondly, it seems you prefer rinseless over waterless, should I avoid waterless as there's a greater risk of introducing scratches into my coating? Or use that technique very sparingly?

Lastly, rinseless could be considered a "one bucket" method?

Thank you so much again! I'm learning!