Menzerna FG 400 ??

[Rifay]

Hi I have menzerna fg400 and menzerna FF3000 & sonax perfect finish .

the above combination is good ??

Which finishing polish is good menzerna FF3000 or sonax perfect finish after compounding with FG 400 in my honda paint ..

i have griot garage 6" ROP with megs MF cutting and finishing pad , LC CCS cutting , polishing and finishing pad and LC flat cutting , finishing pad .

[Just02896]

Hmmm, thats a tough one as I like both Sonax and Menz products. I'd say try both finish polishes and stick with the one that works longest, cleanest, and provides the best gloss for your paint.

[kevincwelch]

Being a Menzerna fan, I'd say stick with FF3000. You could really go for gloss if you went with SF3800, however.

[custmsprty]

If you use FG400 correctly you can get it to finish down so well that an additional step is not necessary unless you just want to do it for the additional work that comes with a second polishing step, me I prefer to do the best I can in one step on daily drivers.

One step with FG400 on severly neglected and oxidized paint:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy1_zpsf327bf4d.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy1_zpsf327bf4d.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy2_zpsec84cfd9.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy2_zpsec84cfd9.jpg.html)

No Haze, No Swirls, perfected paint in one step:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy2_zps5e1794ea.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy2_zps5e1794ea.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy_zpsb410a9e7.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy_zpsb410a9e7.jpg.html)

[Rsurfer]

If you use FG400 correctly you can get it to finish down so well that an additional step is not necessary unless you just want to do it for the additional work that comes with a second polishing step, me I prefer to do the best I can in one step on daily drivers.

One step with FG400 on severly neglected and oxidized paint:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy1_zpsf327bf4d.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy1_zpsf327bf4d.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy2_zpsec84cfd9.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy2_zpsec84cfd9.jpg.html)

No Haze, No Swirls, perfected paint in one step:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy2_zps5e1794ea.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy2_zps5e1794ea.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/chevy_zpsb410a9e7.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/chevy_zpsb410a9e7.jpg.html)

My favorite compound..nice job.

[custmsprty]

Thank you. Rupes Mark 1 15 no washer mod, LC flat pads Orange:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/20131224_163726_zpszlmfmey1.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/20131224_163726_zpszlmfmey1.jpg.html)

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/20131224_163750_zpsx6rjntws.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/20131224_163750_zpsx6rjntws.jpg.html)

[derass]

If you use FG400 correctly you can get it to finish down so well that an additional step is not necessary...

Could you please explain this in more detail please? I'm new to machine polishing and would like to remove swirls in one step if possible. I have a PC, orange and white LC pads, and a Honda that, from what I've read, has soft paint. The Menzerna product chart shows that FG400 is their 2nd most aggressive compound. Would it even be possible for me to achieve the same results as you using FG400 by itself?

[Kamakaz1961]

FG400 to me is a correcting compound to eliminate scratches. FF3000 and the Sonax Perfect finish is just that finishes from using the FG400. I use FG400 and cstmsprty is correct it is possible to use that as the final step too. That being said, I would prefer (which I do) to follow up with either the FF3000 or the Sonax. Those are the products that were designed to follow up after compounding which FG400 is.

FG400 IMO is one of the best compound polishes out there and it is possible for that to be the only product you will need in many cases. In others no....but to be safe I would follow up with a polish like FF3000 or Sonax. Orange pad for FG400 and White Pad for either finishes.

[rlmccarty2000]

I prefer the Menz 400 with 3500. Then again I normally use a microfiber cutting pad with 400 and to my eye it is not LSP ready. I normally go with the least agressive polish I can get away with.

[Just02896]

I prefer the Menz 400 with 3500. Then again I normally use a microfiber cutting pad with 400 and to my eye it is not LSP ready. I normally go with the least agressive polish I can get away with.

I used to use the same combo thinking it was the perfect match. Do yourself a favor and try LC purple wool pads with Griots FCC!

[custmsprty]

For me the choice to do a one step polish is always my first choice on daily drivers. With the quality of many of the products out there these days it is much easier to achieve exceptional results with many one step products.

Another product I really liked, even better than FG400 was HD Adapt. But for some unexplainable reason they chose to discontinue that product. I put that decision right up there with Coca Cola Classic, one bad decision on their part. I'll just leave it at that.

With Adapt it was possible to get amazing correction and unbelievable finishing.

So basically it comes down to labor time. A two step polish takes twice as long as a one step and you still have to appply an LSP. When it comes to peoples wallets, most aren't willing to pay for a two step and I'm surely not doing a two step and charging a one step price.

On my daily drivers which are all recently new models I do a one step and then lsp.

For the OP here's a link to a project I did with HD Adapt:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/98953-2014-nissan-370-z-griots-g21-hd-adapt-7-hd-poxy.html

I purchased Sonax 04/06 and Sonax Cut & Finish over the holiday sales but haven't had an opportunity to use them yet.

[k20trick]

The microfiber pad and menzerna 400 is a really aggressive combination. I wouldnt jump straight to 400 without a test spot of something less aggressive first unless you already know the paint.

[derass]

I wouldnt jump straight to 400 without a test spot of something less aggressive first unless you already know the paint.

That's me! I'm new to machine polishing and don't know my paint. So I'm starting my test spot with Meg's UP and a white pad lol

[k20trick]

That's me! I'm new to machine polishing and don't know my paint. So I'm starting my test spot with Meg's UP and a white pad lol

No problem, we all have to start somewhere I guess. Honestly as with everything I want to try everything, I know menzerna has good polishes, lots of stories of griots correcting cream, and lastly sonax finishing polish but not until that bottle of ultimate compound, m105, m205 is gone. Honestly I'm having a hard time not trying something else from ultimate compound. The results it produces for the cost is amazing. That way money can go into more pads, and other detailing tools.

[DBAILEY]

I think UC is Megs' best all around polish. However, M205 gets most of the praise