technical term arguments

[choijw2]

So this whole time
my understanding was ..

Carnauba wax is with natural ingredients and synthetic wax is with polymer (man made ingredients)
and also called "sealant"

but Im in argument with someone that sealant isnt synthetic wax.



also anything with silicia and titanium based is considered as coating?
then carpro hydro, reload, etc are technically "coating"? ... what?


Just curious.

[Mike Phillips]

You could say I'm kind of a "Word Guy".


Ask your friend what his definition of these words are before investing any more of your time. You and he need to be on the same page as far as word definitions go for all of these words.


Wax
Sealant
Glaze
Polish


In the big picture,


"Find something you like and use it often"



:)

[Mike Phillips]

Here's a few articles on this topic I wrote a few years ago...



Words mean things... just ask any Lawyer...

Word Definitions - Compounds, Polishes, Glazes, Paint Cleaners and Waxes (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/39020-word-definitions-compounds-polishes-glazes-paint-cleaners-waxes.html)

LSP Ready - Definition (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/39661-lsp-ready-definition.html)

Jewelling - Definition (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/37767-jewelling-definition.html)

LSP - The definition and the story behind the term (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24073-lsp-definition-story-behind-term.html)

RIDS - The Definition of RIDS and the story behind the term... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24045-rids-definition-rids-story-behind-term.html)

TOGW = The Other Guy's Wax (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/21283-togw-other-guy-s-wax.html)

Holiday & Vacation (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/34347-holiday-vacation.html)




:)

[Audios S6]

So this whole time
my understanding was ..

Carnauba wax is with natural ingredients and synthetic wax is with polymer (man made ingredients)
and also called "sealant"

but Im in argument with someone that sealant isnt synthetic wax.



also anything with silicia and titanium based is considered as coating?
then carpro hydro, reload, etc are technically "coating"? ... what?


Just curious.

Your understanding isn't wrong, but it isn't right either. The industry doesn't have a standard naming convention.

HD Speed 'correction glaze' is a good example; at least HD claims is doesn't fill, but traditionally we think of glaze as a filler, but again, not always.

Products called a 'polishing compound' or a 'compounding polish'.

Virtually everything on the shelf at the auto parts store is called a wax, even if there isn't a hint of wax in them.

Meguiars M20 'polymer sealant' has been said to be a cleaner wax.

A product labelled snow foam may have the exact same ingredients as a TFR or APC. If I put it through a foam lance, it sure looks and behaves like a snow foam...is it a snow foam? if I put it through a trigger sprayer, it doesn't look like that anymore....is it an APC now? What if I use it as a prespray before washing...is it a TFR now? What if I use it as a prespray for carpets in a hallway....is it a traffic lane cleaner?

You can base a product's naming convention on what is inside it, it's function, how you apply it and many other means. Most important is that you understand the product, performance and uses, not what you call it.

But to your question, my interpretation of LSPs is as follows:

If the primary constituents are natural waxes, then it's a natural paste wax or liquid wax, though I question if you can get an appreciable amount of natural wax in a liquid.
If the primary constituent is polymer or other synthetic, then its a synthetic sealant or wax depending on if it's liquid or solid
If the primary constituent is based on SiO2 or a number of other inorganic compounds, then it's a ceramic/silica, whether or not it's a coating can depend on several other factors.
If the primary constituent is based on SiO2 or similar and a trigger sprayer is used, it's a silica spray sealant.
There's a ton of other possible permutation as well.

[FUNX650]

So this whole time
my understanding was ..

Carnauba wax is with natural ingredients and synthetic wax is with polymer (man made ingredients)
and also called "sealant"

but Im in argument with someone that sealant isnt synthetic wax.



also anything with silicia and titanium based is considered as coating?
then carpro hydro, reload, etc are technically "coating"? ... what?


Just curious.
•Because "Chemistry" dictates otherwise:
-I find your above understanding...in
the categorization of certain car-care
products (LSPs)...to be too doctrinaire;
too cosmopolitan.



Bob