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Mike Phillips
11-11-2016, 04:42 PM
SEMA 2016 Video: SONAX Profiline Ceramic Coating CC36


Jason Whitely the National Sales Manger and Dimitrios Habermeier the Global Director of Training share the new easy to use SONAX Profiline Ceramic Coating CC36 to provide long lasting protection with a super high gloss hydrophobic finish.


SONAX Profiline Ceramic Coating CC36


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BNkk4zsjxo


Available at Autogeek.com

SONAX Profiline Ceramic Coating CC36 (http://www.autogeek.net/sonax-car-care.html)



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Detailsbydaniel
11-11-2016, 06:48 PM
I'm intrigued by this due to the 1 hr cure time. Guess we have to sit and wait to see if it's affordable lol

ScottB
11-12-2016, 09:23 PM
Nice ... the aerosol design is interesting. I like seeing it foam on the applicator initially to measure how much you have to apply.

hdez
11-13-2016, 01:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY8eKknP4kk

Valky
11-13-2016, 07:57 AM
Flexible enough to repelling the impact? I dont fall for this as metal beneath is not that flexible.

Even with clear bra that is very thick and flexible, the paint below still damage in many case. In order to be that flexible ceramic layer will need to be thick enough that the force impact didn't reach below surface, I can't see that it could be that thick.

mwoolfso
11-14-2016, 07:35 AM
Personally, I am not intrigued by a coating that lasts "up to one year". That statement puts this product in-line with Meguiars Paint Protect - which is an OTC product. I will wait and see what the v2 and v3 products look like some years out.

Desertnate
11-14-2016, 10:24 AM
Personally, I am not intrigued by a coating that lasts "up to one year". That statement puts this product in-line with Meguiars Paint Protect - which is an OTC product. I will wait and see what the v2 and v3 products look like some years out.

I'm with you there. Based on my experience with the Blackfire coating, I look at things using a 50% rule: take their claims and reduce by 50%. That puts this product squarely in the same class as most reputable sealants and even their own PNS, which I still really want to try. Many other coating like McKee's, PBL, CarPro, and Optimum seem to have much better longevity.

I'm also not sure how much a like having a two-step application process. Most other coatings are one-and-done.

Zubair
11-14-2016, 12:17 PM
Agree with the above guys, any coating with a measly year protection isn't worth having over sealants or Collinite. Luckily there are 36-60 month coatings out there which as mentioned above,remove the marketing gimmicks and you end up with half.

Detailsbydaniel
11-14-2016, 02:24 PM
It's about low cure times for me as I do not have a garage to keep a vehicle in for the 12+ traditional jobs

custmsprty
11-14-2016, 02:55 PM
I'm with you there. Based on my experience with the Blackfire coating, I look at things using a 50% rule: take their claims and reduce by 50%. That puts this product squarely in the same class as most reputable sealants and even their own PNS, which I still really want to try. Many other coating like McKee's, PBL, CarPro, and Optimum seem to have much better longevity.

I'm also not sure how much a like having a two-step application process. Most other coatings are one-and-done.



I've had a can of PNS sitting around for about six months so I gave it a whirl on our new Altima. It's awesome stuff. Super easy to apply and high gloss.

This car has not been polished, it's been washed after taking delivery. It creates quite a nice gloss.

I'm not sure why all the other negative comments being posted here, it's not like anyone is forcing any one to use the products. But to comment on a product without first hand experince is pretty ridiculous.

The other thing is if we want these companies to continue to work on new products we should encourage them to do so, not blast them with negative comments when they launch something new.


http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/custmsprty/SPNS2_zpsawdwjofn.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/custmsprty/media/SPNS2_zpsawdwjofn.jpg.html)

The Guz
11-14-2016, 06:41 PM
Personally, I am not intrigued by a coating that lasts "up to one year". That statement puts this product in-line with Meguiars Paint Protect - which is an OTC product. I will wait and see what the v2 and v3 products look like some years out.


Agree with the above guys, any coating with a measly year protection isn't worth having over sealants or Collinite. Luckily there are 36-60 month coatings out there which as mentioned above,remove the marketing gimmicks and you end up with half.

I would not put it past Sonax that this is more of a conservative longevity claim. Optimum does the same thing with Gloss Coat. They still claim up to 2 years even though it is now a 3 year coating. Gyeon does the same thing.

asalesagent912
11-14-2016, 07:42 PM
Just want to give my opinion on coatings, I would like to here any suggestions or comments.
I tried cquartz uk a few years ago. this was the first and only coating i have tried.
after i applied it i thought it was orsam. loved the shine and most of all loved how the water just
flew off after washing. i believe the coating was to last about 2 years. i believe it did last just about the 2 years before i started noticing some dull areas.
The down fall for me was that while the coating was still on the car, contaminants were still able to stick to the paint. If i ran my hand across the sides it just wasn't smooth. At this point what are you to do? if you clay it i don't know if you will be removing the coating or maring the paint. If you mar the paint now you have to polish and re apply the coating. I don't know if it will ever happen but if a company can make a coating where the paint stayed smooth for the life of the coating it will be a big hit. I would also like to note that i washed this car every week. I never let it sit for a long period of time while dirty.

tenblade2001
11-14-2016, 11:56 PM
PNS and Brilliant Shine as topper is great

mwoolfso
11-15-2016, 02:06 AM
I'm not sure why all the other negative comments being posted here, it's not like anyone is forcing any one to use the products. But to comment on a product without first hand experince is pretty ridiculous. The other thing is if we want these companies to continue to work on new products we should encourage them to do so, not blast them with negative comments when they launch something new.

I did encourage them to work on new products with my commentary and my wallet. I have Sonax products. I don't plan on visiting a Sonax plant; nor do I have a conference call scheduled with Sonax product owners anytime soon. Do you think companies innovate from "the voice of the customer"? I'll answer my question for you. They absolutely do and over time rarely do they innovate in a sea of "that's the best product in the world, rock on Sonax, can't wait for v2!!!". These points alone give me the right to speak my mind. I suspect this is v1 and they had to get something out to market to fund v2 and v3. It's a standard practice; some revenue is better than zero revenue.

And with all due respect, you have a habit in this forum with many of your responses to others that rubs me the wrong way more often than not. It's a style thing. I believe it comes from a good place but nonetheless many times you don't answer the question being asked or you come across as judgmental, so please refrain from judging my posts. You want to agree or disagree, then that's fine. When you infer how I should contribute on this forum you are extending too far. I follow the forum rules just like everyone else and that should keep you warm and fuzzy inside. I doubt my comments or yours for that matter will materially affect Sonax one way or the other. :-)

it's late and I'm a little cranky... that said, this had to come out sooner or later. if we ever meet I'll buy you a beer. I have a snappy style too.

Desertnate
11-15-2016, 09:02 AM
I'm not sure why all the other negative comments being posted here, it's not like anyone is forcing any one to use the products. But to comment on a product without first hand experince is pretty ridiculous.

The other thing is if we want these companies to continue to work on new products we should encourage them to do so, not blast them with negative comments when they launch something new.


I didn't mean for it to be a negative "blast"...simply objective observations, and hopefully anyone to include the company would take it as that. There are a lot of products on the market at this time which require fewer steps and offer much longer durability. As a company I like Sonax. My one brief exposure to PNS and BSD showed me they are brilliant products. Their new Cut and Finish polish may become my polish of choice on hard paint. In all fairness, I like the aerosol delivery of this coating. I'm just not crazy about the two-steps or the short life span.


I would not put it past Sonax that this is more of a conservative longevity claim. Optimum does the same thing with Gloss Coat. They still claim up to 2 years even though it is now a 3 year coating. Gyeon does the same thing.

I hope this is the case. Based on the research I've been doing, I noticed Optimum seemed to live up to it's claims, but didn't know they were on the conservative side. Interesting to hear about the Gyeon too. The one year durability along with the 24 sheltered cure time were both non-starters for me.