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virus911s
11-10-2016, 02:20 PM
Working a 2009 Mustang, guessing it has a clear coat. Did they come with a one stage paint? I'm pulling color off the car using m105? Oxidation? Anybody know what's going on? Paint looks beautiful, just never seen color come off like so. Red mustang53439

natewood70
11-10-2016, 02:25 PM
Is this the factory paint, or was it re-sprayed at some point?

Also, is this happening on every panel on the vehicle, or just one spot?

I don't think the paint is single stage, so it could've been resprayed and possibly be overspray of the base coat on top of clear, or re-sprayed with a single stage paint.

virus911s
11-10-2016, 02:30 PM
Is this the factory paint, or was it re-sprayed at some point?

Also, is this happening on every panel on the vehicle, or just one spot?

I don't think the paint is single stage, so it could've been resprayed and possibly be overspray of the base coat on top of clear, or re-sprayed with a single stage paint.

The whole vehicle.

Paint is measuring 4.5 to 5.5 mils. Looks to be factory. It's just puzzling me. No way have a burnt the clear to the paint.

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
11-10-2016, 03:06 PM
Sounds like its tinted clear your working on.

Tinted clear is more or less adding base coat in with the clear coat.

BillyJack
11-10-2016, 03:19 PM
Sounds like its tinted clear your working on.

Tinted clear is more or less adding base coat in with the clear coat.

GM does the same thing, mostly on reds. The most popular was labeled Crystal Red Tintcoat, obviously indicating a tinted clear.

Bill

atgonzales
11-10-2016, 03:31 PM
I have a ruby red 2014 Mustang and I used Essence and pulled a little bit of red and only very little your work looks very good, please post more pics when done


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virus911s
11-10-2016, 04:00 PM
Thank you! Here is a shot I captured last night.

WillSports3
11-10-2016, 05:03 PM
I believe the reds, oranges and yellows for the Special Edition paints are all tinted clears for a lot of American manufacturers so I wouldn't worry about it.

Mike lambert
11-10-2016, 05:40 PM
Like everyone said it is tinted clear, it just shows that indeed you remove paint when you polish.

virus911s
11-10-2016, 07:56 PM
Thanks for all the help!

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virus911s
11-10-2016, 07:56 PM
Thanks for all the help!

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Mike Phillips
11-11-2016, 10:26 AM
For what it's worth...

I have an article on this topic with some great pictures showing the difference between,


Single stage

Tinted clear

Clearcoat that's stained - The point being when you buff it you shouldn't see any COLOR coming off the car and if you do it's probably a brown/grey/blackish color and that's a sign of dirt stained paint.



Single Stage Paint - Tinted Clears - Basecoat/Clearcoat - Embedded Dirt (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/43347-types-paint-single-stage-paint-tinted-clears-basecoat-clearcoat-embedded-dirt.html)


Here's just ONE picture from the article from the section on tinted clearcoats.

Here you can see the tint in the tinted clear coming off the car as we compound it and onto the face of the pad. This is nothing to worry about, keep in mind when you're doing any correction work on a clearcoat paint system you too are removing paint that is building up on the face of your buffing pad but because the paint is clear you won't see it build-up on the face of your pad.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1254/2011RJTCamaro010.jpg



And for any of you that read this into the future and wonder how paint can get dirt, check out this article, it explains the issue in detail with pictures that tell the story...


Road Film - If you drive your car in the rain your car has road film (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/72159-road-film-if-you-drive-your-car-rain-your-car-has-road-film.html)



The dirt you see on the pad in my hand... (the pad started out white)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1590/Autoscrub013.jpg



Came from this CLEARCOATED car...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1590/Autoscrub002.jpg


The paint is clear and the brownish color is years of dirt staining that builds up ON the paint and doesn't wash off. It does come off when you use a compound, polish or cleaner/wax.


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virus911s
11-11-2016, 12:06 PM
For what it's worth...

I have an article on this topic with some great pictures showing the difference between,


Single stage

Tinted clear

Clearcoat that's stained - The point being when you buff it you shouldn't see any COLOR coming off the car and if you do it's probably a brown/grey/blackish color and that's a sign of dirt stained paint.



Single Stage Paint - Tinted Clears - Basecoat/Clearcoat - Embedded Dirt (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/43347-types-paint-single-stage-paint-tinted-clears-basecoat-clearcoat-embedded-dirt.html)


Here's just ONE picture from the article from the section on tinted clearcoats.

Here you can see the tint in the tinted clear coming off the car as we compound it and onto the face of the pad. This is nothing to worry about, keep in mind when you're doing any correction work on a clearcoat paint system you too are removing paint that is building up on the face of your buffing pad but because the paint is clear you won't see it build-up on the face of your pad.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1254/2011RJTCamaro010.jpg



And for any of you that read this into the future and wonder how paint can get dirt, check out this article, it explains the issue in detail with pictures that tell the story...


Road Film - If you drive your car in the rain your car has road film (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/72159-road-film-if-you-drive-your-car-rain-your-car-has-road-film.html)



The dirt you see on the pad in my hand... (the pad started out white)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1590/Autoscrub013.jpg



Came from this CLEARCOATED car...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1590/Autoscrub002.jpg


The paint is clear and the brownish color is years of dirt staining that builds up ON the paint and doesn't wash off. It does come off when you use a compound, polish or cleaner/wax.


:)
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atgonzales
11-11-2016, 12:21 PM
Mike

You really make things so clear for everyone on this forum

Thank you

Adam


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