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Mike Honcho
09-13-2016, 09:16 PM
My son and I just purchased a couple of 2013 cars that look like they visited the tunnel wash every week! The mother of all swirls and scratches! After washing, iron decon, and claying, we plan on using DG 501 to brighten up the paint, followed by FG400 and SF4000 to tackle the swirls and scratches. This sound right? Also, would I need to add 601 to the 501 since we'll be compounding and polishing it? Or will the 601 "bring something extra to the party?"

VISITOR
09-13-2016, 09:46 PM
dg501 will deep clean the paint and some add protection but will not remove defects like a dedicated polish/compound. try doing a test spot first with sf4000 (try a few different pads) and if that doesn't yield the results you're looking for then step up to fg400. least aggressive first and work your way up...

Paul A.
09-13-2016, 09:55 PM
I wouldn't bother with the DG501, Mike, if you're going to use FG400 and SF4000. Go right to your LSP after 4000.

glfnaz
09-13-2016, 10:24 PM
Sounds like the 2013 cars were rental cars. The go through the swirl O' matic about 3 times a week. No need for 601 if you are going to polish afterward. 501 is a great cleaner though.

ski2
09-13-2016, 10:50 PM
Why not use the 501 after the compounding??

Mike Honcho
09-14-2016, 04:37 AM
Burgundy Kia and black Lexus. Both paints look dull and lifeless. (Plus the swirls and scratches.)

Mike Honcho
09-14-2016, 04:38 AM
Why not use the 501 after the compounding??

That's what I can't figure out. 501 before compounding or after?

Setec Astronomy
09-14-2016, 04:45 AM
After. I mean it's arguably the least aggressive of the three; why would you use that first?

Mike Honcho
09-14-2016, 05:12 AM
It's the least aggressive supposed to go first?

Setec Astronomy
09-14-2016, 06:11 AM
It's the least aggressive supposed to go first?

That would be if you were trying to not use the other products...that's a test spot protocol, you start with the least aggressive and keep going more aggressive until the defects are removed.

Once you have found what aggressiveness level is required to remove the defects, you start with the most aggressive and move to the least aggressive. In this case since you've already said the cars are hammered and you are going to use FG400, you would start with that and move to the SF4000. I would agree with others that you won't need the 501 after unless you are using it for the sealant properties.

Mike Honcho
09-14-2016, 07:19 AM
Ah. That makes sense!

Jowillie
09-14-2016, 07:29 AM
I've got a similar plan on a couple of "not-so-bad" black suv's in a couple of weeks. The plan is just like yours, but after the paint correction, I will use DG105 for its sealant properties. Then I will add a layer of DG111 a day or two later for shine and added longevity. Yes, definitely add the 601 to any of your DG LSPs.

RTexasF
09-14-2016, 07:43 AM
501 AFTER. Yes it has a cleaner in it but it also has sealant. I would choose #105 after machine polishing myself. It is a sealant with very light cleaning ability where #501 is essentially a cleaner with light sealing ability. Either will look good though.

Paul A.
09-14-2016, 08:47 AM
I wouldn't suggest 501 as your LSP. Not much durability and if i'm gonna compound and buff to remove swirls and scratches i would want a more durable LSP. Just my opinion.

Jowillie
09-14-2016, 02:57 PM
In the words of Dr. Bunsen Honeydew....."Watch it Fizzzzzzz!";)
I've never noticed that reaction. I guess I use it as soon as it's mixed.