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Mike Phillips
08-19-2016, 11:43 AM
Review and How-to: McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/new-car-care-products/104161-review-how-mckees-37-xtreme-iron-remover.html)


McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover

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Iron contamination is more common than most people think...
Iron contamination is a real problem for your car's paint and the age of your car doesn't matter. A brand spanking new car can have HORRIBLE iron contamination and left untreated the iron particles will cause corrosion to the precious thin clearcoat paint that comes on a brand new car. Older cars are also very likely to have iron contamination and also need to be treated to remove the iron. This is especially true for horizontal panels as it is the horizontal panels where iron contamination will tend to build-up the most and it is also the horizontal panels that are attacked by the elements and other contaminants.


Removing Iron Contamination = Chemical Decontamination
The process of removing iron contamination is called chemical decontamination in the professional car detailing world. This is an important first step to restoring neglected paint back to show room new condition. This process uses chemicals to dissolve contaminants off the exterior of a vehicle.

Removing Above Surface Bonded Contaminants = Mechanical Decontamination
The process of removing above surface bonded contaminants is called mechanical decontamination in the professional car detailing world. This is an important second step to restoring neglected paint back to show room new condition. This process uses a mechanical means of removing contaminants like overspray paint, tree sap mist, industrial fallout, airborne dirt, traffic pollution, etc. off the paint using the physical contact from rubbing tools like detailing clay or replacements for detailing clay over the paint with some form of lubricant.



Questions and Answers

Question: Does using an iron remover take the place of using detailing clay?

Answer: No. Iron removers only remove iron contamination. Iron removers will not remove non-iron contaminants like overspray paint, tree sap mist, industrial fallout, traffic pollution, airborne dirt and other airborne contaminants.



Question: Which order do you decontaminate a car? Chemical first followed by mechanical decontamination or do you start with mechanical decontamination followed by chemical contamination?

Answer: You always start with chemical decontamination followed by mechanical decontamination. The reason why is because if there are any forms of iron contaminants bonded onto or embedded into your car's paint - if you were to remove them with detailing clay, you would risk rubbing them over the paint potentially instilling scratches into the paint. This is why you do the chemical decontamination first, to avoid the risk of rubbing iron particles over the paint and scratching it.



Question: Do I have to use a product like McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover?

Answer: No. It's an optional step but it's a step that I personally recommend that a person do at least once. Doing this procedure one time will tell you if your car's paint is contaminated or not. If it is contaminated you'll know and you'll take comfort in the fact that you've removed the contamination. If the paint is not contaminated, (no bleeding or color changing effect), then you can take comfort that your car's paint was not contaminated.


Question: Does McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover have a foul odor or strong foul scent?

Answer: The answer is "no".

Products like this are known for their intense foul odor. Out of all the iron removers I've ever used, McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover has the LEAST noticeable scent. While chemical odors never bother me personally, I know a lot of people don't like working with products that have odors that are foul and overpowering. I'm very happy to say that this is not the case with McKee's Xtreme Iron Remover.






Paint is thin
The factory clearcoat is around 2 mils thin. A common post-it note is around 3 mils thin. This means the clear layer of paint on most cars is thinner than a post it note. All you have to do is feel how thin a post-it note is between your thumb and forefinger to understand how important it is to properly take care of your car's finish to avoid problems down the road including catastrophic problems like clearcoat failure (http://Review and How-to: McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover) where the only way to repair it is to repaint the car or the affected panel.

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The Car Insurance Analogy
I like to explain the importance of using an iron remove like the importance of having car insurance. When it comes to car insurance, you want to have it but you never want to use it. When it comes to McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover, you want to use it but you hope that it doesn't work.

Say what?

That's right, you want to use it but you want to hope it doesn't work.


The Bleeding Effect (the color changing effect)
If iron contamination is present on your car's paint, McKee's 37 Iron Remover will find it and dissolve it. As it dissolves it the resulting residue turns red. The effect this has is it appears as though your car's paint is bleeding.

Most people think this looks kind of cool and I have to admit, it does look kind of cool when you see it and when you understand why you're doing it. But if you see your car's paint turning red that means it is contaminated and that means there is corrosion taking place. Corrosion from any contaminant is bad for your car's clearcoat finish.


Car Insurance
What's is better is to use it and to NOT see the bleeding effect. This means the pant is not contaminated and there was no corrosion taking place. So while "yes" it can be kind of cool looking to see your car's paint turn red when doing the chemical decontamination step it's actually better to not see the color changing visual effect.

In this way it's like car insurance. You want to have car insurance but you never want to use it.



Here's the deal...
You don't know if you need it until you use it. Then when you use it you either have a sigh of relieve that you've removed all the iron contamination OR you have a sigh of relieve that your car's paint didn't have any iron contamination at all. Both experiences are good but in reality, it's better to use a product like this and NOT see the bleeding effect.


Getting the most bang for your buck
This is a product where I tend to break all the rules. The normal way people use a product like this is to rinse off the car first to remove loose dirt and then apply the iron remover. The problem with this approach is that by spraying the loose dirt off first, you now have a wet car, that is you now have water standing, pooling or clinging to the body panels. If you next spray on the iron remover, the iron remover breaks the surface tension the water has to the paint and the water then runs off and onto the ground taking the iron remover with it.

Seems like a waste of product and thus a waste of money to me.


So here's how I do it...

First - McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover is formulated to spray onto dry paint. The important directions for using this product correctly on dry paint are,


1: Don't let the product dry on the paint. (This means you're rinsing the product off before it has a chance to dry)

2: Work on a cool surface in the shade. (This is just common sense but I want to stress this for that portion of our society that is common sense challenged)


So as long as you abide by the two above directions for correctly using this product to remove iron contamination from your car's paint, here' how you do it.


How to use McKee's 37 Iron Remover


Step 1: Spray down the painted body panels, glass, and other exterior surfaces with McKee's Xtreme Iron Remover

Step 2: Allow the iron remover to do its thing, finding iron contamination and dissolving it.

Step 3: Rinse your car off with a strong blast of water to remove all the iron remover and dissolved iron residues.

Step 4: Wash your car as you normally would wash it.


That's it. That's all there is to chemically decontaminating your car's paint.



Now let's take a look the same directions with a few pictures to share the story...



Step 1: Spray down the painted body panels, glass, and other exterior surfaces with McKee's Xtreme Iron Remover

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Step 2: Allow the iron remover to do its thing, finding iron contamination and dissolving it.

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Step 3: Rinse your car off with a strong blast of water to remove all the iron remover and dissolved iron residues.

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Step 4: Wash your car as you normally would wash it.
The iron remover focuses specifically on finding, dissolving and removing iron contamination. After you rinse the McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover off the car you still need to use a normal washing process to thoroughly wash the car and remove any and all loose dirt, road grime and other non-bonded contaminants off the vehicle, wheels and tires.




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Mike Phillips
08-24-2016, 08:24 AM
***Bump***


Can be used with or without rinsing and DRAMATICALLY less odor!




On Autogeek.com


McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover (http://www.autogeek.net/xtreme-iron-remover-x.html) - 16 ounce spray bottle

McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover (http://www.autogeek.net/bulk-iron-remover.html) - 128 ounces (1-gallon jug)


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BM1024
08-24-2016, 08:57 AM
No odor? Then how am I going to keep the wife from coming outside and yelling, "ARE YOU DONE YET?"

With the stinky stuff at least I get some peace! :)

Marc08EX
08-24-2016, 09:05 AM
Great review, pictures and write-up Mike! I always enjoy reading your articles.

I can't wait to try this product out!

FLAVIOBR
08-24-2016, 09:34 AM
Another great product for sure

Expect more releases for shipping only for Brazil

See you

psychout777
08-24-2016, 09:43 AM
***Bump***


Can be used with or without rinsing and DRAMATICALLY less odor!


:dblthumb2:

Without rinsing? What's the best way to go about that?

Mike Phillips
08-24-2016, 10:31 AM
No odor? Then how am I going to keep the wife from coming outside and yelling, "ARE YOU DONE YET?"

With the stinky stuff at least I get some peace! :)




Thanks for the funny comment BM1024 :xyxthumbs:


Just so there's no confusion for anyone that might only SCAN what I wrote, McKee's 37 does have an oder it's just dramatically LESS than comparable products.


From my article, here's the pertinent quote





Question: Does McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover have a foul odor or strong foul scent?

Answer: The answer is "no".

Products like this are known for their intense foul odor. Out of all the iron removers I've ever used, McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover has the LEAST noticeable scent. While chemical odors never bother me personally, I know a lot of people don't like working with products that have odors that are foul and overpowering. I'm very happy to say that this is not the case with McKee's Xtreme Iron Remover.




One of the things I do in all areas of car detailing is be sure to set peoples expectations accordingly. By this I mean, I don't want anyone to think this product is orderless as it does have a scent it's just not as foul as similar products.


:dblthumb2:

Mike Phillips
08-24-2016, 10:44 AM
Without rinsing? What's the best way to go about that?




Depends on your next steps.


If you ONLY want to use this product and then STOP. (I can't imagine most people doing this), then you can spray it onto ONE PANEL at a time. Allow it to do its thing and then before it can dry wipe the panel clean using microfiber towels. Then follow this by wiping the panel with your choice of any spray detailer or waterless wash. Simple Simon. This in effect removes any iron contamination and acts as you method of getting the car clean without using running water for a dedicated rinsing step.


If you want to use this product but are not in a position to wash the car and thus use running water to rinse the vehicle like I show in the pictures, then you can apply to one panel at a time and the wipe the panel clean and then move on to your next step.

The next step for most people will be to clay or use a clay replacement to remove the above surface bonded contaminants that the iron remover doesn't remove. Spraying a clay lube and claying the paint and then wiping this residue off will act to also clean any iron remover residues not removed when you wiped the panel clean with the initial wipe with clean, dry microfiber towels. Of course, doing a great job of wiping off the iron remover residues is important and should be common sense for anyone doing this type of procedure and "yes" this means having multiple clean, dry microfiber towels or even waffle weave microfiber towels on hand to remove all the residues.


The next step for most people after claying will be to apply some type of paint care product, such as,

Compound
Polish
Cleaner/wax

And of course, these are normal and basic step most of us do if we're going to chemically and mechanically decontaminate a car.

Be careful to NOT make something very simple overly complicated.


Great question, thank you for asking.


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rlmccarty2000
08-24-2016, 11:03 AM
Looks like a good product and a good price point. If it doesn't stink and removes iron like Iron-X and BDX et al. then it's going to be a big seller. The town I live in has railroad tracks running through the middle of it and you can't avoid rail dust contamination. Thanks for creating a product that does not smell worse than rotten eggs.

psychout777
08-24-2016, 01:43 PM
Depends on your next steps.


If you ONLY want to use this product and then STOP. (I can't imagine most people doing this), then you can spray it onto ONE PANEL at a time. Allow it to do its thing and then before it can dry wipe the panel clean using microfiber towels. Then follow this by wiping the panel with your choice of any spray detailer or waterless wash. Simple Simon. This in effect removes any iron contamination and acts as you method of getting the car clean without using running water for a dedicated rinsing step.


If you want to use this product but are not in a position to wash the car and thus use running water to rinse the vehicle like I show in the pictures, then you can apply to one panel at a time and the wipe the panel clean and then move on to your next step.

The next step for most people will be to clay or use a clay replacement to remove the above surface bonded contaminants that the iron remover doesn't remove. Spraying a clay lube and claying the paint and then wiping this residue off will act to also clean any iron remover residues not removed when you wiped the panel clean with the initial wipe with clean, dry microfiber towels. Of course, doing a great job of wiping off the iron remover residues is important and should be common sense for anyone doing this type of procedure and "yes" this means having multiple clean, dry microfiber towels or even waffle weave microfiber towels on hand to remove all the residues.


The next step for most people after claying will be to apply some type of paint care product, such as,

Compound
Polish
Cleaner/wax

And of course, these are normal and basic step most of us do if we're going to chemically and mechanically decontaminate a car.

Be careful to NOT make something very simple overly complicated.


Great question, thank you for asking.


:)

Thanks Mike

ScottH
08-24-2016, 07:35 PM
...will be adding that to my next order. Which reminds me, it's been at least 5 days since my last one. I am slipping! :-)

ScottH

trojanone1
08-24-2016, 07:39 PM
Compared to IronX, about how long does a 16 oz bottle last?

Nappers
08-24-2016, 11:17 PM
Would this work on Windshields with hard water from sprinklers? I've seen Mothers Windshield polish but wondered about this.....

I'm liking the Mckee's line of products.

Great article Mike.

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
08-25-2016, 02:10 AM
Beautiful review Mike.

Thanks for taking the time to jam pack the review full of information and pictures to share with us.


Say what!?

First - McKee's 37 Xtreme Iron Remover is formulated to spray onto dry paint.

That's crazier than a wooden leg with a real foot!!!

Very interesting to see this particular product formulated this way.

Mike Phillips
08-25-2016, 07:26 AM
The town I live in has railroad tracks running through the middle of it and you can't avoid rail dust contamination.



Exactly. That's just one forum of air-borne iron contamination.

Every other time or so when I wash my wife's white Mercedes I use an iron remover, in the past Iron X but now I'll be using McKee's.

And knowing I've already performed a major iron removal process when we first bought the car and I first washed it, each time I use an iron remover there's always spots of red bleeding taking place on the car.

So this tells me, here in Stuart, Florida, for where we live and drive, there's always a slow build up of iron contamination.

Next time I wash the car I'll spray on some McKee's Xtreme Iron Remover and take some pictures.






Thanks for creating a product that does not smell worse than rotten eggs.



Nick gets all the credit for this product and his work with the chemist in charge of this project.







Would this work on Windshields with hard water from sprinklers? I've seen Mothers Windshield polish but wondered about this.....



Yes. The active ingredients don't really care what the iron particles are bonded too.

When I use this product I spray it over everything.






I'm liking the Mckee's line of products.



Top notch formulas. Quality ingredients. Joe Consumer prices.

Plus... hard to argue with things like this...


McKee's 37 = Winner BEST PAINT! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/competition-ready-velocity-channel/99381-mckee-s-37-winner-best-paint.html)


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Great article Mike.




Thanks bud... long time no see...


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