Menzerna Nano vs. Menzerna Final Polish

[milabfocker]

I have used the Menzerna Final Polish and was satisfied with the results; however, I was wondering if there was a noticable difference between this and the Menzerna Nano Polish (PF106). In other words, is the nano polish worth buying if I already have the final polish. I keep hearing hype about the Menzerna Nano Polish and wanted to know if the results of the final polish are closely comparable.

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

The FP has a bit more bite and a bit less gloss

The 106ff is designed for scratch resistant CC's.

[ScottB]

actually I would differ with the above comment. Because 106FF (nano) and 085 are both designed for ceramiclear scratch resistant clears they initially offer more bite. All three break down well into a final polish and can jewel the finish as needed, but those two ceramiclear offerings are best at finishing in my eyes also.

[StephenK]

actually I would differ with the above comment. Because 106FF (nano) and 085 are both designed for ceramiclear scratch resistant clears they initially offer more bite. All three break down well into a final polish and can jewel the finish as needed, but those two ceramiclear offerings are best at finishing in my eyes also.

i thought 106 and SIP was the only 2 made for the scratch resistant clears?

[ScottB]

085rd was originally designed with 106FF for ceramiclears. Pulled the 085 from US market as felt it was overlapping. AG managed to get some in. Great final polish .... highly recommended.

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[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

actually I would differ with the above comment. Because 106FF (nano) and 085 are both designed for ceramiclear scratch resistant clears they initially offer more bite. All three break down well into a final polish and can jewel the finish as needed, but those two ceramiclear offerings are best at finishing in my eyes also.

I may be mistaken but I thought the OP was referencing FP (PO85U) and 106ff in which case my statement is correct...at least that is what I have observed through usage and what is on the attached chart

[ScottB]

Jason, not arguing with the chart, but remember all things equal 085U is designed for regular clearcoats. 106FF and 085Rd are both initially more abrasive because they were designed and cut measured on a scratch resistant clearcoat. I would look at how similar the grit removal is on both and remember its harder to remove swirls in ceramiclear versus regular clear because of its makeup.

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

Jason, not arguing with the chart, but remember all things equal 085U is designed for regular clearcoats. 106FF and 085Rd are both initially more abrasive because they were designed and cut measured on a scratch resistant clearcoat. I would look at how similar the grit removal is on both and remember its harder to remove swirls in ceramiclear versus regular clear because of its makeup.


Ughhh, right when I think I have the menzerna offering figured out...

So if I am understanding what you are saying Scott, even though the cut for PO85U is listed as 3 and the 106ff cut is listed as 2.5 the fact that the 106ff is for scratch resistant clear coat equates to a higher cut that the PO85U?

Let me know if I am misunderstanding your words.

[mrb]

I have the 106ff which did one of the best jobs on 06 Ford truck red and Red 06 GTO. Both of these units have multipui layer of most products AG sells applied with 7424 LC pads etc. These cars are keep outside.

I also have Menserna Final Polish ll,Full Molecular Jacket , Finishing Touch Glaze.

I not sure how these products are to used or in what order. The Menzerna is great product but it is very confusing on what order they are to be utilized.

I have read where killerwheels recommended polish, glaze ,sealant. I thought this is what I was doing.
THe Menzerna chart is just a chart of products and grits to me ,but not much useful information on what order they are to be used. Any advice would be helpful. Maybe Menzerna is only to be used on high end cars, but not much good for Amercian everyday cars.
I getting tried of purchasing a product that has endless items with no instruction on how they are to be used.

[richy]

I have the 106ff which did one of the best jobs on 06 Ford truck red and Red 06 GTO. Both of these units have multipui layer of most products AG sells applied with 7424 LC pads etc. These cars are keep outside.

I also have Menserna Final Polish ll,Full Molecular Jacket , Finishing Touch Glaze.

I not sure how these products are to used or in what order. The Menzerna is great product but it is very confusing on what order they are to be utilized.

I have read where killerwheels recommended polish, glaze ,sealant. I thought this is what I was doing.
THe Menzerna chart is just a chart of products and grits to me ,but not much useful information on what order they are to be used. Any advice would be helpful. Maybe Menzerna is only to be used on high end cars, but not much good for Amercian everyday cars.
I getting tried of purchasing a product that has endless items with no instruction on how they are to be used.

How I use the Menz line with great success, IMHO, is 1st use whatever compound you need to do the job (SIP, PG) or you may skip that step if the paint is pretty good. 2nd up is the polish for which there are 2 great choices (106 and 85rd). The optional step is glaze..I use it on blacks and metallics..it really makes the paint jump. Finally, the sealant which I have FMJ from before, but I have switched to DG 601/105 combo followed by AW. I defy anyone to create a better shine with longer protection than that!! It absolutely, positively, ROCKS!! Hope that helps.

[D]

SIP or PG with wool or foam on the rotary. Then 106 with foam, then wax or sealant or both.

[Darren F]

So what would you use if you dont have a ceramic clearcoat? I have a 2007 Black Lexus....The more I read about the Menzerna line the more I get confussed because I really want to try it but am not sure which one to buy

[milabfocker]

I believe all of the menzerna products are acceptable for use on standard clear coats; however, I believe the PO106FF and RD would be comparable to a more agressive polish since they were formulated to abrade ceramic clearcoats. Regardless, I have used the Menzerna intensive polish and it produces a surface which is ready for wax. I think the fact that the Menzerna polishes are self refining makes all of their polish products a great choice. I did go over the intensive polish with a Menzerna Final Polish II; however, I did not notice a significant difference in gloss. Hope this helps. Also, I appreciate everyones' input. I have decided I will hold off on purchasing the PO106FF until I run out of the polishes I am currently using.

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

Darren you can use the 106 on all surfaces

[Torsion Tool]

This is the reason why, after countless hours reading threads, I broke down and ordered the FF106. Figured the only definitive answer will come from using them all myself in differend pad combinations. Just too damned confusing to rely solely on others' evaluations. Please, no offense intended to the veteran users/reviewers competence and appraisals.