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richy
05-13-2016, 12:41 PM
I've been doing this for a while and I thought I'd share it. When I mix my go-to APC's (Zep Citrus, 505 and LA Totally Awesome), I don't mix them with water. I mix them with the soapy water mix I'm going to wash the car with. It doesn't negatively affect the performance obviously and if anything, I find it makes them perform a bit better.

LSNAutoDetailing
05-13-2016, 01:37 PM
Interesting to know... I usually dilute w/ distilled water.

GSKR
05-13-2016, 04:49 PM
I've been doing this for a while and I thought I'd share it. When I mix my go-to APC's (Zep Citrus, 505 and LA Totally Awesome), I don't mix them with water. I mix them with the soapy water mix I'm going to wash the car with. It doesn't negatively affect the performance obviously and if anything, I find it makes them perform a bit better.Ive tried that with red hot,seems it creates quick run off deosnt cling to a surface that well.

richy
05-13-2016, 04:50 PM
Ok. Works for me with the APC's I use

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Hoytman
05-13-2016, 09:00 PM
Reminded me of this from a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUGUXy7lXU0&feature=youtu.be

I've had one bad episode with APC+ 20:1 and one bad episode with OPC 10:1 ... water/apc. Both did NOT dry on the paint and were rinsed thoroughly and both left bad stains on the paint, sand colored and black. Both were sprayed onto wet paint from a pre-mixed dilution from a spray bottle. Naturally, I'm a little gun shy. I have not tried the apc's that you use though.

I take it you're mixing in a bucket like in the above video? I would be more comfortable mixing apc this way with the wash soap than direct spraying onto wet paint.

Paul A.
05-14-2016, 10:25 AM
I like that idea, Richy. I am going to try it with an engine detail later.

WRAPT C5Z06
05-14-2016, 05:34 PM
Reminded me of this from a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUGUXy7lXU0&feature=youtu.be

I've had one bad episode with APC+ 20:1 and one bad episode with OPC 10:1 ... water/apc. Both did NOT dry on the paint and were rinsed thoroughly and both left bad stains on the paint, sand colored and black. Both were sprayed onto wet paint from a pre-mixed dilution from a spray bottle. Naturally, I'm a little gun shy. I have not tried the apc's that you use though.

I take it you're mixing in a bucket like in the above video? I would be more comfortable mixing apc this way with the wash soap than direct spraying onto wet paint.
Wow, Garry Dean really turned that car around!!

Hoytman
05-14-2016, 06:16 PM
Richy,

I'm going to assume you typically only use one type/brand of soap? If so, then are you putting your soap solution into bottles and then mixing it with your apc's and using it that way? I had trouble picturing in my mind exactly how you were using these and that's what brought the Garry Dean video to mind.

richy
05-15-2016, 08:25 PM
Sorry guys if I didn't take the time to properly explain what I meant. Instead of taking my spray bottle with APC and adding tap water and then more APC (when it needs refilling), I am taking the almost empty bottle and submerging it in my wash bucket and adding my Megs Hyper Wash soap mix into the bottle and then topping it up with the appropriate amount of APC (4:1 or whatever). Hope that makes it more clear. Sorry for any confusion.

swanicyouth
05-15-2016, 09:33 PM
Reminded me of this from a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUGUXy7lXU0&feature=youtu.be

I've had one bad episode with APC+ 20:1 and one bad episode with OPC 10:1 ... water/apc. Both did NOT dry on the paint and were rinsed thoroughly and both left bad stains on the paint, sand colored and black. Both were sprayed onto wet paint from a pre-mixed dilution from a spray bottle. Naturally, I'm a little gun shy. I have not tried the apc's that you use though.

I take it you're mixing in a bucket like in the above video? I would be more comfortable mixing apc this way with the wash soap than direct spraying onto wet paint.

Lolz. I love GD - but it's funny watching him clean wheels with a toilet brush.

Hoytman
05-15-2016, 10:21 PM
I'm a pain, I know. LOL!

So, are you then trying to use up that entire spray bottle on each vehicle or are you keeping a few bottles with different apc dilutions on hand and just mixing more when needed? I noticed you seem to use Meg's Hyper wash soap quite a bit, so I think I am safe in assuming you can use the same apc dilution from car to car, then again maybe you don't. Do you always use this 4:1 ratio or is this something where you always mix up a new bottle for each car and let each car dictate the strength of your dilutions?

Never thought of dunking the bottles and filling them with wash soap and adding the apc, but I sort of like the idea. Thanks for sharing, Richy.

richy
05-15-2016, 11:43 PM
I'm a pain, I know. LOL!

So, are you then trying to use up that entire spray bottle on each vehicle or are you keeping a few bottles with different apc dilutions on hand and just mixing more when needed? I noticed you seem to use Meg's Hyper wash soap quite a bit, so I think I am safe in assuming you can use the same apc dilution from car to car, then again maybe you don't. Do you always use this 4:1 ratio or is this something where you always mix up a new bottle for each car and let each car dictate the strength of your dilutions?

Never thought of dunking the bottles and filling them with wash soap and adding the apc, but I sort of like the idea. Thanks for sharing, Richy.

Bill,
Hyper Wash is my go-to wash now. It works great, has nothing added and is very econonmical. Yes, I still use the same 4:1 ratio, but rather than straight water, I use my wash mix instead of water.

BillyJack
05-16-2016, 01:00 PM
Richy, what dilutions do you find are best with LATA and Zep 505? I'm using 4:1 with both Zep Citrus and Purple, but 505 seems weaker than purple.

Bill

richy
05-16-2016, 01:05 PM
Richy, what dilutions do you find are best with LATA and Zep 505? I'm using 4:1 with both Zep Citrus and Purple, but 505 seems weaker than purple.

Bill
LATA I was using straight for a while, but it's so strong, I cut it maybe by 1/2 or at least 1/3. 505 is probably 2 or 3 parts water to 505. Purple is very strong. I stopped using b/c it made me cough more than smoking crack...I'M KIDDING!! (But it did make me cough like crazy).