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View Full Version : Rupes LHR 21 Mark II =>VS LHR 15 Mark II Which one to get?



alegend
04-28-2016, 08:47 AM
Hi Question is above!

I Think about buying one of these..first I thought about gettin LHR 21, then a dealer here in Germany told me he would get the LHR 15 Mark II.
Im not sure if this si the best choice.
I thought about getting the 21 model with a 5" backplate

Whats your thoughts?
Additionally I will buy the lHR 75

lane5515
04-28-2016, 09:47 AM
I would recommend the 15 MKII. Pair that with the 75 mini and you are set. I had a 21ES and moved to the 15 MKII which works better for me. Both are great machines and you are going to get opinions both ways. Have you tried either machine? If you could test them that would be best so you could determine what works better for you.

alegend
04-28-2016, 02:33 PM
Thx for your response...
I cannot try any of these machines. I worked with a cheap orbital machine til now which also has 5 inch pads.
A friend of mine hardly recommends to buy the 21 plus 15 backplate. Then I wanted to order at my fav. store and the shop owner hardly recommended NOT to buy the LHR 21 because he has the opinion that the machine is not built for modern cars with lot of edges and stuff. He says its varnishers which dont have time or for polishing boats.

At first I was shure to get the LHR 21 mark II but now I doubt a bit -especially some also say that equipin the lhr21 with a 5" backplate isnt that good concerning smooth operation of the machine.
Any more opinions?
:-)

SRConcepts
04-28-2016, 04:06 PM
I just got the LHR15 Mark II myself, and I'm really happy with my decision. There's many spots on my cars where a 6.5" pad won't work well with, not to mention the longer throw. However, it really depends on what type of vehicles you're working on. If the majority is large cars and SUVs, the 21 will suit you better. If it's smaller/midsize cars, or curvaceous ones, the 15 is the way to go.

Also, one last note- Rupes doesn't offer separate backing plates for the Mark II machines yet, so a Mk II 21 with a 5" BP isn't an option quite yet.

Dylan@RUPES
04-28-2016, 04:13 PM
For detailing my default recommendation is the LHR15II... the 15 packs a lot of punch and the slightly smaller orbit allows for some more versatile applications. It also ramps up the max opm and torque to close the gap on the 21 in terms of correcting power.

CalSun Detail
05-12-2016, 11:50 AM
I canceled my order the LHR21 and replaced it with LHR15. it was a decision based on what size pads I wanted to use and the price difference. Are the specs of the 21 worth $125? IMO, no.

Marc08EX
05-12-2016, 12:15 PM
I canceled my order the LHR21 and replaced it with LHR15. it was a decision based on what size pads I wanted to use and the price difference. Are the specs of the 21 worth $125? IMO, no.

Difference is only $30. Where did you get the $125 number from?

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05-12-2016, 12:18 PM
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CalSun Detail
05-12-2016, 12:53 PM
Difference is only $30. Where did you get the $125 number from?

You're right Marc. I don't know where I got that $125 from.

Garagehack
05-12-2016, 03:19 PM
I bought a 21 and if I could do it again I would get the 15 for a number of reasons including that I enjoy polishing more using a smaller pad and the lack of large flat panels on the cars I polish that would make a larger pad make sense. If you do a search I think most people recommend getting a machine designed for 5 inch pads, I should have listened to this advice.

Eldorado2k
05-12-2016, 09:46 PM
I bought a 21 and if I could do it again I would get the 15 for a number of reasons including that I enjoy polishing more using a smaller pad and the lack of large flat panels on the cars I polish that would make a larger pad make sense. If you do a search I think most people recommend getting a machine designed for 5 inch pads, I should have listened to this advice.

I find myself thinking the opposite of this lately.^
I have a 21, but so far I've mainly decided on using it with a 5" backing plate and 6" pads.. And while the 6" pads feel pretty sweet on it, I've recently been wanting to step up and buy a batch of 7" pads to use with the 6" backing plate my polisher came with.
Time is money, and the 21 is built to handle larger areas in a shorter amount of time. I can't wait for my new batch of 7" Lake Country HD Orbital Pads:)

CalSun Detail
05-13-2016, 10:12 AM
Do you have the 21 mark II? I thought they didn't sell the backing plates for the mark II separately

Eldorado2k
05-14-2016, 11:39 PM
Do you have the 21 mark II? I thought they didn't sell the backing plates for the mark II separately

I have the Griots Boss 21. The 5" and 6" Boss backing plates are readily available, interchangeable, and fully recommended by Griots. The Rupes on the other hand, ehh not so much.

usmcpab
05-15-2016, 12:20 AM
I never had any issues when I had my 21. Like many have said, it covers a lot of ground and I don't really have trouble on curves. For smaller intricate areas I just used a gg6 with 3 inch backing plate. I was considering getting a 15 as a replacement since my 21 was stolen, but I loved all the ground coverage of the 21.

JeffM
05-15-2016, 08:21 AM
I bought a 21mm machine due to me having pickup trucks to polish. Its great for that! I also have a Jeep and its barely usable on it. Thats an exaggeration but a simple 8mm machine may be a better fit for the newer jeep I have. Either way I have a 3" machine on standby when using the 21mm. , but I would have a 3" machine on standby no matter what I used.

I think what im saying is, youll need at least a couple machines to do a good job.