First customer interested in a coating application.... NEED HELP PLEASE!!!

[Dan Tran]

Good afternoon AGO, it's Dan Tran again. This time I have a newbie question to something I have never dealt with. I have been researching as much as I can and I am starting to feel more comfortable with the idea of coating applications.

Here is the story..

One of my client is in the process of purchasing a brand new 2016 Honda Accord Sedan in the dark blue color I believe or black. Either he wants to have the car polished up to pop out the color and have it sealed in. He is on a budget. So the first thing I thought of was applying HD speed with a polishing pad and topping off with HD Poxy for the extra kick.

However, after talking to him a bit more he mentioned that since he is buying a new car that me he may want to go with a coating option instead as long as it doesn't cost him much more.

I'm not against this but this obvious changes things up a bit as far as paint preparation correct folks!?

My second thought was looking into Carpro Essence topped with CQuartz. I read that with Essence it preps the paint for coatings, is this true?!

My first question: Is this the right move?

Are coatings anything to be scared about as far as proper application?

My second question is:

Once proper paint preparation is done, I apply the coating with a foam applicator, then level it off with a micro fiber towel?

Am I on the right track?

If so are these steps universal with all coating options?

Lastly, Cure time is how long for coatings typically?

[Docpeanut]

Most coatings are user friendly, some more than others. First thing you want to do is polish any defects from the paint as the coating will seal them in semi permanently. After polishing, you want to remove the polishing oils to allow the coating to properly adhere. There are many coating preps available, most just mist on and wipe off. As for application and buffing, it really depends on which coating you go with. Personally I'd suggest Wolfgang Uber Coating, it can be used on everything on the car and is super user friendly.

No matter which coating you choose, remember, Thin To Win, don't over apply. Cure time is 12-24 hours typically

[FUNX650]

Either he wants to have the car
polished up to pop out the color
and have it sealed in.

He is on a budget.

However, after talking to him a bit more
he mentioned that since he is buying a
new car that me he may want to go with
a coating option instead

as long as it doesn't cost him
much more.

I'm not against this but this obvious
changes things up a bit as far as paint
preparation


Is this the right move?
Am I on the right track?

If a Coating does become the Customer's
preferred choice: don't short change yourself;
charge accordingly.


Bob

[Dan Tran]

If a Coating does become the Customer's
preferred choice: don't short change yourself;
charge accordingly.


Bob

Is this something I should charge by the hour. Because for a mid size sedan say he only wanted a full exterior done with a machine wax coating, if the car is in really good shape (in this case new) including paint decon, I would normally start at about $95 and I would add on $90 for 1 step (AIO) $160 for 2 steps and $200 for a three step

I would think it would be safe to charge for the cost of the product also.

Matter of fact, where should I be with charging?

[Dan Tran]

Most coatings are user friendly, some more than others. First thing you want to do is polish any defects from the paint as the coating will seal them in semi permanently. After polishing, you want to remove the polishing oils to allow the coating to properly adhere. There are many coating preps available, most just mist on and wipe off. As for application and buffing, it really depends on which coating you go with. Personally I'd suggest Wolfgang Uber Coating, it can be used on EVERYTHING on the car and is super user friendly.

No matter which coating you choose, remember, Thin To Win, don't over apply. Cure time is 12-24 hours typically


LITERALLY EVERYTHING?

Exterior trim pieces, chrome, wheels?? Glass too?

Are some coatings paint only applications?

[Dan Tran]

Btw everyone, even if he doesn't go with the coating, this is a learning thread for me.

Thanks in advance for your insight!

[lane5515]

I applied my first coating this weekend and it was pretty easy. I used PBL Diamond Paint Coating on a 2014 GMC Sierra Crew Cab. The overall process (paint cleansing lotion and coating) took about 2 hours. I'd charge a flat rate instead of by the hour as I'm sure more experienced detailing professionals can complete the process faster.

[GSKR]

Is this something I should charge by the hour. Because for a mid size sedan say he only wanted a full exterior done with a machine wax coating, if the car is in really good shape (in this case new) including paint decon, I would normally start at about $95 and I would add on $90 for 1 step (AIO) $160 for 2 steps and $200 for a three step

I would think it would be safe to charge for the cost of the product also.

Matter of fact, where should I be with charging?I would at least try to get 450.00.Thats a whole day process.59 bucks for bf and the rest labor.I know guys getting way more than that in my area.If he deosnt want to commit less work for you,200 isn't gonna change your life.charge what you are worth.I had a guy wanted me to remove dog hair from a terrain mid sized suv,I said no cause I could tell off the bat he wasn't gonna pay me 8 hrs of cleaning that disaster.

[JeffM]

Wipe on wipe off. Not that hard.

[Docpeanut]

LITERALLY EVERYTHING?

Exterior trim pieces, chrome, wheels?? Glass too?

Are some coatings paint only applications?

Literally everything, and yes, some coatings are designed only for paint, others for wheels and others for glass

[Ebg18t]

Something like WG Uber Ceramic is easy to apply and you can get 2-3 cars from the syringe. Also OPT Gloss Coat is easy to apply. My vehicles have Uber on them now, very happy with it.

[Eric@CherryOnTop]

Don't forget to factor in how much a coating will cost YOU! Essence and cquartz ain't cheap...


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[Dan Tran]

Good afternoon AGO, it's Dan Tran again. This time I have a newbie question to something I have never dealt with. I have been researching as much as I can and I am starting to feel more comfortable with the idea of coating applications.

Here is the story..

One of my client is in the process of purchasing a brand new 2016 Honda Accord Sedan in the dark blue color I believe or black. Either he wants to have the car polished up to pop out the color and have it sealed in. He is on a budget. So the first thing I thought of was applying HD speed with a polishing pad and topping off with HD Poxy for the extra kick.

However, after talking to him a bit more he mentioned that since he is buying a new car that me he may want to go with a coating option instead as long as it doesn't cost him much more.

I'm not against this but this obvious changes things up a bit as far as paint preparation correct folks!?

????My second thought was looking into Carpro Essence topped with CQuartz. I read that with Essence it preps the paint for coatings, is this true?!

???? My first question: Is this the right move?

IM FEELING GOOD HERE - Are coatings anything to be scared about as far as proper application?

My second question is:

Once proper paint preparation is done, I apply the coating with a foam applicator, then level it off with a micro fiber towel?

????? Am I on the right track?

If so are these steps universal with all coating options?

ANSWERED - Lastly, Cure time is how long for coatings typically?

So far I have gotten great help.

Any thoughts of the previous questions I have unanswered?

Instead of essence, I have Wolfgang total swirl remover and finishing glaze. Is it a matter of just applying a paint prep item like an IPA?

[GSKR]

Be more defined in your question?

[kevincwelch]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I wouldn't apply a glaze and then prep the paint.

I'd use a compound/polish - whatever gets the paint in its best condition - and then prep the paint. IPA, Gtechniq panel wipe, CarPro Eraser, etc.

Reportedly, if you use CarPro Essence, you can skip the paint prep after you buff off the essence residue. It is designed for CarPro coatings, but others report success topping it with other coatings.

Wolfgang is really easy to apply and it does coat anything.

Pinnacle Black Label and McKees (formerly DP coating?) are easy to apply.

22PLE is easy to apply.

Gtechniq C1/EXO requires applying two separate coatings and requires a bit of a learning curve to overcome, but the results are nothing short of incredible.

I prefer applying the coatings with a microfiber suede cloth. There are 10cm x 10cm cloths you can buy or get one of those 16x16 inch ones and cut it up (that's what I do).

Agree with Bob: charge more for this.

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