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justin_murphy
10-09-2007, 08:37 PM
This will be a short write up. This mainly a review two products that are main staples in my business now. I've been looking for a system that will both benefit me and my customers when it comes to my wash/wax packages. I truly believe that in order to get the durability and look out of any wax/sealant, you must clean the paint. Then comes the time and cost of polishing. This is where an All-in-One comes in. One of the myths is that an AIO will not last as long as a stand alone LSP. I too have seen this. The solution? Lock in the protection with a product that will even give more protection. This takes care of the customer, but what about the detailer? The application system needs to be fast and efficient.

Here's is what I've came up with........

I can wash and vacuum almost any bi-weekly SUV in less than one hour. My goal was to add only 25 more minutes for a DURABLE protection session.

The Tools
(Cyclo Polisher with EDGE2K Green/White Combo Pads)

The Chemicals
(Poorboy's Polish with Sealant & Optimum's Opti-Seal)
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First I polish the entire vehicle with PwS. This includes all glass and roof. I do the entire vehicle first before removing in the same matter of application. I do use a damp MF towel to clean my pads with half way through this process. I simply fold to towel over and place it on my tailgate. I then push the Cyclo and pads onto the towel and turn the machine on.

After removing the PwS, I flip the pads over to the white sides. I spray one pump of Opti-Seal (OS) onto each pad. I then place the pads onto the hood and while in place, turn the machine on. I'm just loading (priming) the pad here. I then use 2-3 sprays to finish the vehicle with. This includes the roof. I then take one of the pads off and protect the wheels. Just because you can't feel the dampness of the OS on the pads does not me that it's not there. Remember, there is no removal of Opti-Seal. It simply vanishes if done correctly.

Here are two that I did about 2 weeks ago. I saw them today after a rain and it looked like they had just been washed.

The cleaning power of Poorboy's Polish with Sealant.
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2006 Ford Explorer.......
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2006 Mercury Mariner.......
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Did I mention how well the glass looked?
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Reddwarf
10-09-2007, 08:42 PM
Seems like a good plan. I don't know much about the opti-seal. I'll have to read up on it.

I washed my car this weekend (I did a review of the PB SS&Wax). Well, it rained like a biblical flood yesterday and now the car looks like hell.

CalgaryDetail
10-09-2007, 09:41 PM
i like that set up. i am not a huge fan of Opti-seal, i find that It dosent last as long as i would like, however this system for a bi-weekly or a montly customer would be great. I might have to steal it from you.
thanks for sharing

pt91
10-09-2007, 09:51 PM
is applying the OS by cyclo faster than the normal way?

Jimmie
10-09-2007, 11:27 PM
As always, impressive results Justin. Did you get close to the 25 minute goal? I've always had to use a lot more time with PB PwS on the PC but do like it.

supercharged
10-10-2007, 02:53 AM
That's a very smart idea, Justin. Time and cost efficient. What's the expected durability of protection on this? Around 3 months?

dengood1
10-10-2007, 04:02 AM
That's a very smart idea, Justin. Time and cost efficient. What's the expected durability of protection on this? Around 3 months?

Holy crap! I was starting to give up on seeing another "justinized" vehicle....glad to see YOU'RE BACK!! Welcome back bro....

Oh, nice combo. I really like PWS......disappears very quickly, works great. Very similar to XMT360, with just a hair less correcting ability. I just did my newly acquired blazer with 360/optiseal........it looks amazing.

Good write up:cheers:

richy
10-10-2007, 05:39 AM
justin..enjoyed the write up. were you on target time wise?

silent926
10-10-2007, 06:50 AM
what kind of prep did you do prior to polishing?

justin_murphy
10-10-2007, 12:34 PM
what kind of prep did you do prior to polishing?

I just washed it with a stiff wash.........dawn and purple power combo. Since PwS cleans the paint, it was that was needed.

Got this process done in about 28 minutes. Took some pics in there too. That's plenty fast enough for me.

Bulla2000
10-10-2007, 01:21 PM
Well done Justin.

m4gician
10-10-2007, 01:22 PM
As always, impressive results Justin. Did you get close to the 25 minute goal? I've always had to use a lot more time with PB PwS on the PC but do like it.


Two things:

1) You said you beleive in cleaning the paint, how about the clay bar? That definitely takes some time if you want to do it right otherwise don't do it. Usually to me it takes 1 hour doing a quick clay, a very attentive clay can take a lot longer, how do you avoid this problem with older or cars with more mileage?

2) Can PBwS be applied via UDM + white LC pad with same results?

justin_murphy
10-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Two things:

1) You said you beleive in cleaning the paint, how about the clay bar? That definitely takes some time if you want to do it right otherwise don't do it. Usually to me it takes 1 hour doing a quick clay, a very attentive clay can take a lot longer, how do you avoid this problem with older or cars with more mileage?

2) Can PBwS be applied via UDM + white LC pad with same results?


Neither of these cars needed claying. An hour would add 50.00 to the bill for the customer. If it needs it, I tell the customer and then they make the decision. I do this for a living. I don't give anything away.

Claying is not the only way to clean the paint on a car. Look at my pads and you will see that.

I'm not familiar with LC's pads but I've used it with the UDM with great results. The same for 360.

budman3
10-10-2007, 02:38 PM
The white CCS pad and PwS will be a great cleaner / sealant. If you want some swirls removed, you'll need to bump up to a light cut (orange) pad. PwS is pad dependant.

dengood1
10-10-2007, 06:39 PM
The white CCS pad and PwS will be a great cleaner / sealant. If you want some swirls removed, you'll need to bump up to a light cut (orange) pad. PwS is pad dependant.:whs: