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    What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?


    1986 Porsche 911 SC Cabriolet with Turbo Wide Body Slant Nose conversion and boxed rockers coated with Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating





    What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Extreme gloss - So much gloss that the word I use to describe the appearance is glassy. Glassy is a tick higher than glossy.

    Extreme durability - Correctly applied, coatings simply don't wear off like car waxes and synthetic paint sealants. Of course, it is important to still wash a coated care carefully and I have an article on that and will share it later in this thread.

    Better protection - Hey if it's lasting longer on the car obviously it's protecting longer.

    Faster washing - Ceramic coatings create a hydrophobic or water-fearing surface - water naturally wants to get away from a ceramic coated surface thus washing is faster as dirt is released easier and faster when washing.

    Faster drying - Same reasons a ceramic coated car is faster to wash, water wants to get off the car so it will naturally blow off or wipe off.

    Self-cleaning effect - Because of the hydrophobic surface, when it rains the water will run off faster and easier and take any accumulated dirt with it.







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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Great car. My brother had a blue one like that back in the day.

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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ B4U View Post

    Great car. My brother had a blue one like that back in the day.

    I poured a little bit of myself into this car when I buffed it out. Invested both perspiration and passion.

    Kind of sad to find out the owner sold it.



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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

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    What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?


    1986 Porsche 911 SC Cabriolet with Turbo Wide Body Slant Nose conversion and boxed rockers coated with Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating





    What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Extreme gloss - So much gloss that the word I use to describe the appearance is glassy. Glassy is a tick higher than glossy.

    Extreme durability - Correctly applied, coatings simply don't wear off like car waxes and synthetic paint sealants. Of course, it is important to still wash a coated care carefully and I have an article on that and will share it later in this thread.

    Better protection - Hey if it's lasting longer on the car obviously it's protecting longer.

    Faster washing - Ceramic coatings create a hydrophobic or water-fearing surface - water naturally wants to get away from a ceramic coated surface thus washing is faster as dirt is released easier and faster when washing.

    Faster drying - Same reasons a ceramic coated car is faster to wash, water wants to get off the car so it will naturally blow off or wipe off.

    Self-cleaning effect - Because of the hydrophobic surface, when it rains the water will run off faster and easier and take any accumulated dirt with it.






    I am game to try this on my dd.

    Corrected the paint a couple washes ago.

    Right now truck is sealed with WGPS, topped with Fusion and if you recognize my name you know I applied F11 on top of that as a maintainer.

    What are my steps to prep for the new coating? It"s so hard to keep up with black as a dd, not to mention a business vehicle which has to always look presentable when pulling up to potential clients homes.

    Once sealed, what is used as a maintainer or QD for this type of coating?

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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

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    What are my steps to prep for the new coating?

    Basic steps are,

    Step 1: Wash and dry

    Step 2: Clay if needed (important - if needed do it)

    Step 3: Machine polish - this ensures you're working on pure paint. If swirls and scratches are deep then compound and polish

    Step 4: Chemically strip paint to remove polishing oils and get paint naked

    Step 5: Install coating

    Step 6: CAREFULLY inspect paint to remove any high spots.

    Step 7: Carefully wash moving forward.



    And the above is why most pros charge good money. There's a lot of time and labor involved PLUS the person doing it also has to CARE about what they are doing. It's real easy to mar the paint during the chemical stripping paint if you don't have clean, soft un-contaminated towels and don't CARE to wipe carefully. When a person is "caring" that is a type of brain drain besides the physical work.



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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Here's some related information I've written about that is "knowledge" you need in order to do the job right.

    How to chemically strip paint for a ceramic paint coating

    Installing a Ceramic Paint Coating? You MUST have a GREAT hand held light to avoid high spots!

    How, why & when to inspect your microfiber towels when detailing cars

    Microfiber towels for ceramic paint coatings - How to care for - by Mike Phillips

    Permeable and Impermeable - Towel Control for Ceramic Coatings



    If you don't remove all the high spots or in simple terms, excess coating, here's this,

    How to remove a Ceramic Paint Coating High Spot by Mike Phillips


    Here's a very in-depth how-to article that you can use the tips and techniques with ANY brand of paint coating.

    Review: GYEON Q2 ONE Enthusiast Ceramic Coating by Mike Phillips

    TONS of info in the above article. Heck, try to find one anywhere else with that volume of info.





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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Or - if you don't care about swirls and scratches, use this,


    Live Product Testing - Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Coating Wash



    BEFORE - Zero water beading - water on hood lays flat







    Now I'm only going to wash one half of the hood....





    Here's Mike Liebing, our host rinsing the hood...





    BOOM!
    You can easily see wherever the car wash touched the paint the paint is now beading water as though it has been coated.





    Driver's side = Phenomenal water beading in context

    There was ZERO water beading before we washed this side of the hood






    Passenger side - The only water beading is the places the Wolfgang SiO2 Car Wash touched.





    Nice product. It's expensive. I'd recommend buying the gallon next time it's on sale and then mix 2 capfuls to 2-3 gallons of water and CAREFULLY HAND WASH your car.




    You'll get the hydrophobic effect which gives you the same benefits of installing a coating onto your vehicle's paint you just won't have the swirl-free appearance.




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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    WOW! Thank you for the plethora of info. I am so glad to have found my way here to get help rather then than fumbling through with mediocre results. Seems I have a lot of reading homework and then some ordering to do. Thanks Mike! Can't wait to try it out

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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Not to detract from Mike's great info. But I might add a few comments since I have used Pinnacle Black Diamond Paint Coating (Disclaimer, this product may have been changed-improved since I bought it, when it first came to market a few years back)

    The Pinnacle Paint Coating is a little bit of a different animal than some other durable Paint Coatings.

    Firstly, it is much easier to apply than let's say Carpro CQuartz. As far as application, I found it no more difficult than say a WOWA liquid Sealant. Spray, spread, and come behind with an MF Towel after to level-smooth any possible high spots. Job's done!

    Like other such products marketed, prep will be an important key to get proper bonding and adhesion. Just tossing this over an already waxed-sealed vehicle will be a "no go". At least as far as longevity and durability goes.

    But is this product in the realm of other durable coatings such as CQuartz, Optimum Gloss Coat, or others similar that have come to market? I'd have to say no.

    Maybe not a good way to judge, but take an applicator, spray it with Pinnacle. Now take a similar applicator, and douse it with CQuartz. With the Pinnacle coating, the applicator will never harden. With CQuartz, the applicator will dry and turn as hard as a rock. Open a bottle of CQuartz, let the air hit it, it will turn into a rock hard slug of glass. Pinnacle and some others like it won't do that.

    I've used the Pinnacle product, and sorry to say, I was not that impressed. CQuartz on the other hand, and after application and drying and curing, you can literally take your fingernails, and try to scratch the paint, and nothing happens. Not a mark. In other words a more durable product. That I've found CQuartz was much more resistant to marring scratching than Pinnacle. Also lasted a hell of a lot longer upon the paint.

    Pinnacle I might see as a bridge, in between products such as sealants-waxes, and the other more durable coatings.

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    Re: What are the benefits of a ceramic paint coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkD51 View Post
    Not to detract from Mike's great info. But I might add a few comments since I have used Pinnacle Black Diamond Paint Coating (Disclaimer, this product may have been changed-improved since I bought it, when it first came to market a few years back)

    The Pinnacle Paint Coating is a little bit of a different animal than some other durable Paint Coatings.

    Firstly, it is much easier to apply than let's say Carpro CQuartz. As far as application, I found it no more difficult than say a WOWA liquid Sealant. Spray, spread, and come behind with an MF Towel after to level-smooth any possible high spots. Job's done!

    Like other such products marketed, prep will be an important key to get proper bonding and adhesion. Just tossing this over an already waxed-sealed vehicle will be a "no go". At least as far as longevity and durability goes.

    But is this product in the realm of other durable coatings such as CQuartz, Optimum Gloss Coat, or others similar that have come to market? I'd have to say no.

    Maybe not a good way to judge, but take an applicator, spray it with Pinnacle. Now take a similar applicator, and douse it with CQuartz. With the Pinnacle coating, the applicator will never harden. With CQuartz, the applicator will dry and turn as hard as a rock. Open a bottle of CQuartz, let the air hit it, it will turn into a rock hard slug of glass. Pinnacle and some others like it won't do that.

    I've used the Pinnacle product, and sorry to say, I was not that impressed. CQuartz on the other hand, and after application and drying and curing, you can literally take your fingernails, and try to scratch the paint, and nothing happens. Not a mark. In other words a more durable product. That I've found CQuartz was much more resistant to marring scratching than Pinnacle. Also lasted a hell of a lot longer upon the paint.

    Pinnacle I might see as a bridge, in between products such as sealants-waxes, and the other more durable coatings.
    Very interesting insight - ty

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