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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Quote Originally Posted by 4u2nvinmtl View Post

    Amazingly thorough write-up Mike, as always. I actually never knew what those screws were for on the foam gun.
    Thank you sir!



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    Q: In your opinion, is there any advantage for using a foam gun over a foam cannon/lance?
    Answer: Yes. The foam cannon will dramatically create more more foam and thicker foam over a foam gun.


    Quote Originally Posted by 4u2nvinmtl View Post

    I personally prefer my foam cannon/lance over the foam gun because it uses less soap, less water, and produces thicker clinger foam.

    In a contest between the performance of a foam cannon to a foam gun the foam cannon will win every time.

    For all the forum members and lurkers that will read this into the future that might not know what we're talking about,


    Foam CANNON = For use with a Pressure Washer

    Foam GUN = For use with a Garden Hose



    So here's why I use and shared the foam gun over the foam cannon in this article,

    1: Not everyone owns a Pressure Washer - the masses have or have access to a Garden Hose

    2: Using a Pressure Washer includes using a very stiff, heavy duty water line that is cumbersome to handle and move around the car AS COMPARED TO a garden hose.


    By nature... I'm lazy. It might not seem like it to people on the outside as I also tend to be a work-a-holic. That said, it's easier for me to drag out a garden hose to wash cars and trucks than it is to drag out the pressure washer to wash cars and trucks.

    I use to show the pressure washer in my 3-Day Competition Ready Detailing Classes but when you combine the unit itself and the hose used to hook it up to a water spigot and then the stiff pressure line for the pressure washer gun/wand plus if it's an electric pressure washer, now factor in the electrical cord and you have what I call a TRIP HAZARD for the students in my classes.

    Not only that, but on the car wash portion of the class, which is Saturday we wash on average 3-5 cars for the upcoming tool and technique classes so the extra hassle of using a pressure washer as compared to garden hoses is a real time killer and a trip hazard.



    Quote Originally Posted by 4u2nvinmtl View Post

    I also find it more effective to foam the paint when it's dry rather than starting with a rinse. That way the foam clings longer and has more of a chance to loosen dirt and grime, then I rinse the foam and dirt off and proceed with my two bucket wash. While the foam is dwelling it gives me a chance to prep my buckets and finish washing the wheels.
    I totally agree. When I first started showing how I spray Iron X onto dry dirty cars it ruffled the feathers of a number of detailing experts. I say, use what works for you and I'll use and share what works for me. Kind of like the amount of soap to use in a foam gun or a foam cannon. My buddy Juan taught me to,

    "Never spend another man's money"


    I like lots of suds so I use the ample amount of soap. Key word being ample for my taste and for a foam gun.



    Quote Originally Posted by 4u2nvinmtl View Post

    - Thanks (John Rogers from Facebook)

    Thank you for the great questions and you're take on using foam cannons.

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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    I'll have to check out that hyper soap. On a dirtier car, I definitely don't rinse first. I do as you said so the foam clings better. But my baby never gets that dirty

    I will take a picture next time I wash mine with the amount of soap I use and the resulting foam.

    Definitely agree Mike: what works for some doesn't work for others. Me being curious I am always open to trying another's method. Thanks!!

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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepngli View Post

    I'll have to check out that hyper soap.
    Been there, done that...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepngli View Post

    Definitely agree Mike: what works for some doesn't work for others.

    I will take a picture next time I wash mine with the amount of soap I use and the resulting foam.

    Me being curious I am always open to trying another's method.

    Thanks!!

    I'm already looking forward to the pictures...



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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Quote Originally Posted by ekennett View Post
    Sweet! Do they sell replacement parts for the foam gun? I lost the brass screw on the top of the mixing head which you said is prone to being lost :-p
    Now that I have a foam gun in hand, I think there's a small, significant difference between the two screws. I also noticed a tool free number on the instruction sheet for ordering parts. I don't have time now, but I'll post a scan of that sheet later.

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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Very well written and informative article. When i first got mine I thought it might be a passing fad, but years later I use it every wash.
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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Multi Ratio Foam Cleaning Gun (low pressure) Instructions & Parts Diagram

    For parts: 800-852-2723 (Autogeek doesn't sell replacement parts) - Model number can be found on the top of the mixing head. For example, my gun is Model #75QGF, the same as Mike's.


    Attachment 50477

    Attachment 50478

    #10 - Screw (Locking) and #11 - Screw (Metering) are very similar, with a small difference. The metering screw has a tiny hole in the top; the locking screw does not. The locking screw fills a blind hole, and it appears to simply act as a stop so that #14 - Stem (Adj Metering) can't slide out of the rest of the mixing head. While a replacement for the locking screw might be easy to find locally, finding or making a metering screw might be difficult. Both screws can come loose easily, so take a moment to make sure they're tight, or add some light (green) or medium (blue) thread locker to them for added security. Mike's suggestion to use pliers to tighten them will work. Bear in mind that it may become necessary to remove the screws to clear debris from the mixing head, so don't go overboard and seat them in red thread locker.

    Anyone wanting better copies of the attached photos can find them here. vBulletin's media management leaves much to be desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    The recommended dilutions for McKee's 37 Xtreme Foam Formula car wash soap are,

    2 ounces soap to 6-8 ounces of water

    Because I like lots of suds the below mixing instructions are for mixing 2 ounces of soap to 6 ounces of water.

    32 divided by 6 = 5.3

    If we just round the 5.3 to 5 that means 5 groups of 6 ounces will go into the one quart bottle but each group of 6 ounces will also get 2 ounces of soap. So that's 8 ounces. 8 will go into 32 3 times and now I'm done doing math.

    Instead of making this difficult I do what I call look at the BIG PICTURE. The big picture is I want lots of suds.

    In order to completely fill the 1 quart bottle with a uniform mixture of soap and water solution at the 2 ounces of soap to 6 ounces of water dilution level I fudged the math to make it EASY to mix a strong dilution of soap and suds. If you want a weaker solution then simply add more water than I show below and less soap. For example you could add 24 ounces of water and 8 ounces of soap. Or add 28 ounces of water and 6 ounces of soap. For these dilutions, to make it easy on yourself, simply measure out the water first and then MARK the side of the bottle with a permanent marker. Then in the future you can quickly fill the bottle with water to the mark and then fill the rest of the bottle with soap.


    For maximum suds

    I filled the bottle with 22 ounces of water then added 10 ounces of soap. This gave me a total volume of 32 ounces of soapy water solution.
    Mike, thank you for the detailed tutorial! I've had a foam gun in my shed for years. I used it once and put it away because it didn't "work". Using your instructions and pictures, it worked great yesterday! How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips-638-gif

    One comment: 10 ounces of soap to 22 ounces of water = 2 ounce of soap to 4.4 ounces of water. To get 32 ounces of soapy water solution at a mix of 2 ounces of soap to 6 ounces of water requires 8 ounces soap, not 10:

    • 2 ounces of water + 6 ounces of soap = 8 ounces soapy water solution.
    • 32 divided by 8 = 4.
    • 6 ounces of water 4 times = 24 ounces water.
    • 2 ounces of soap 4 times = 8 ounces soap.
    • 24 ounce water + 8 ounces soap = 32 ounces of soapy water solution at a mix of 2 ounces of soap to 6 ounces of water.

    I understand you may prefer to use a "richer" solution than 2 ounces of soap to 6 ounces of water

    -Stewart

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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Quote Originally Posted by pro 4x View Post

    Very well written and informative article.
    Thank you. While Facebook might be easy to post a sentence or two, there's simply no way to share a REAL how-to article on Facebook. That's where a REAL discussion forum shines.



    Quote Originally Posted by pro 4x View Post

    When i first got mine I thought it might be a passing fad, but years later I use it every wash.

    Me too.

    I wish someone would have shown me a foam gun a lot sooner...



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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Such a good write up. I enjoy reading these so much. I'm interested, but I have one concern. It seems like there is a cost to this process and that's product. Much more product. At least five times more product than a normal two-bucket system would use. That's not an insignificant amount, IMO.

    Mike, do you feel there is a enough of an effective advantage from the foam gun over a two-bucket wash to warrant the additional cost or is it something where it just makes the washing process more fun (which is valuable in itself, but subjective)?
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    Re: How to use a foam gun by Mike Phillips

    Just got one of these...an early Christmas present from me to me.....it was awesome.....actually made washing the cars fun.....

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