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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    •Contrarily:
    -According to the latest study published
    in the journal ”Advanced Materials”...
    Graphene, which is made from graphite,
    is actually ‘hydrophilic’.


    •Which, IMO, begs the question:
    -Should a Coating exhibit the water-behavior
    known as Hydrophobicity; then: can it truly
    be a genuine Graphene Coating?


    Bob

    To bond, or not to bond, that is the question ...

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Every time I see you post in a topic of
    coatings it reminds me of this
    You think that’s something?

    Well get this:
    Every time I see you post, regardless the
    topic, it reminds me of the following:

    ‘For some reason, some people find you credible.
    I don’t get it; but will definitely exploit it’.


    Bob
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    [...]

    Didn't dallas paint correction come out with one? Ammo NYC has their reflex sheet coat.

    [...]
    Nah just slightly less hydrophobic. It sounds like semantics but the difference is important imo. A with a hydrophilic product water would stick, like when you hand wash your glassware. Ideally the product would also also be oleophobic and repel oils. A product like this would be visually boring but the best thing to reduce wash induced marring. I think I'll just have to become a youtube chemist and make it myself

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Also just because a product has a chemical doesn't mean it's doing the "work". Peek the thread from the new 3D coating that has SiO2 but isn't a "SiO2 coating"

    Review: 3D Paint Coating and 3D One Cutting Compound and Finishing Polish


    Sub'd regardless, thank you for testing! At the end of the day we just want stuff that works!

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by DetailZeus View Post

    I think I'll just have to become a youtube chemist and make it myself

    Where to you get your degree for this?



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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    You think that’s something?

    Well get this:
    Every time I see you post, regardless the
    topic, it reminds me of the following:

    ‘For some reason, some people find you credible.
    I don’t get it; but will definitely exploit it’.


    Bob
    Lol I see you didn't take that well and it struck a nerve. I have two simple solutions for you Mr. Bob. Either don't participate in any threads that I start and/or block me and you will never see a post from me on the forum.

    I am sure you are familiar with the term haters gonna hate. I found this and maybe I should be thanking you instead.

    Why do haters hate?
    Criticism is self-hate turned outward. Hate is often a sign of weakness, envy and fear. Haters hate on you because you’re doing what they cannot, will not or are too afraid to attempt.

    Haters are a natural part of the growth of your business. When you’re new there will be critics, when you’re good there will be haters, and when you’re excellent they will turn into admirers. The question is: Are you willing to be attacked and criticized as a person to grow your brand?

    There is one way to avoid having haters. Sit on the sidelines, do nothing, don’t set goals, be average and no one will judge or hate you.

    Criticism and hate are the price you pay for taking your business to the big time. So don’t let the sound of your haters overwhelm you, you only give them power if you listen to what they say. Ignore the noise and use your haters as fuel for the fire. They’re hating you because you’re on to something and are doing big things. In a way they are one of the greatest forms of feedback you can get.

    Quote Originally Posted by DetailZeus View Post
    Nah just slightly less hydrophobic. It sounds like semantics but the difference is important imo. A with a hydrophilic product water would stick, like when you hand wash your glassware. Ideally the product would also also be oleophobic and repel oils. A product like this would be visually boring but the best thing to reduce wash induced marring. I think I'll just have to become a youtube chemist and make it myself
    Ah thanks for the explanation. I don't follow the guy or his product line. I am sure you will gain many subscribers doing so .

    Quote Originally Posted by DetailZeus View Post
    Also just because a product has a chemical doesn't mean it's doing the "work". Peek the thread from the new 3D coating that has SiO2 but isn't a "SiO2 coating"

    Review: 3D Paint Coating and 3D One Cutting Compound and Finishing Polish


    Sub'd regardless, thank you for testing! At the end of the day we just want stuff that works!
    Well said.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    I saw graphene demonstrated on Forensic Detailing's channel about 4 months ago. I made a mental note to check it out this summer but still have not done so with everything that has been going on.

    Are there many companies selling a graphene coating yet or just the SPS one?

    What kind of pricing are we looking at per application?

    Right now I use 2 coatings : McKee's 37 for my 2 year product and Gtechniq CLS for my 5 year one. McKee's cost almost nothing to use. About 5$ per car. CLS is about 80$ per car. I think the most expensive coatings on the market were from Optimum and Ceramic Pro, might be wrong. Opti-Coat Pro+ was in the 400$ range if I remember correctly. Never asked for pricing for Ceramic-Pro cause I have no interest in their products and company.

    Any of you thinking about switching to graphene?

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Baldone View Post
    Great write up. I posted in another FB group about not liking the removal process. I retried it, and although I do not like the dry, wet, dry removal method, it was better the second time. It absolutely does help with water spotting. I have noticed a difference on my wife’s Hoonday. For some odd reason, since moving 5000 feet higher in altitude, I have noticed water spotting to be worse than I was used to in the Midwest. Since applying SPS Graphene, the water spots are virtually non existent, and remove easily. As an installer, it irks me a bit, that you can get the exact same product with a different label and not need to be authorized.
    What graphene product can u get not being authorized?


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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?



    As always Mike, great review.

    Got a little bit of humor going in this one plus some sheer honesty.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Actually Borophene is probably
    the next big thing in Coatings.


    Bob
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