FLEX XC3401 vs any of the new long stroke polishers???

[hdez]

I'm fairly new to the detailing world and I started using the GG6, but as others have mention, DA's have that vibration that can exhaust your hands and arms, I really hated that.

Then I was considering going for the 3401, but I wasn't completely convinced as I wanted a very smooth machine that would not give me any type of exhaustion. I went ahead I bought the Flex PE8 and the Flex P14, both rotaries btw. With these machines I can tackle all paint jobs I have came across. I still have my GG6 for things like jeweling the paint or sanding headlights (using 3" bp). I'm very happy with my purchases but I'm still thinking about getting the 3401 lol. I might purchase it in the future.

[Valky]

I'm fairly new to the detailing world and I started using the GG6, but as others have mention, DA's have that vibration that can exhaust your hands and arms, I really hated that.

Then I was considering going for the 3401, but I wasn't completely convinced as I wanted a very smooth machine that would not give me any type of exhaustion. I went ahead I bought the Flex PE8 and the Flex P14, both rotaries btw. With these machines I can tackle all paint jobs I have came across. I still have my GG6 for things like jeweling the paint or sanding headlights (using 3" bp). I'm very happy with my purchases but I'm still thinking about getting the 3401 lol. I might purchase it in the future.

If you already have PE8,14 and a gg6 you won't need a 3401, go Mini instead.

[dcjredline]

The last thing is that there are nothing 3401 can do and long throw can't.

There is one big thing... keep rotating no matter what. Sorry.

[Zubair]

There is one big thing... keep rotating no matter what. Sorry.

On orbit alone the MKII's correct faster than a 3401. Your argument on rotation doesn't hold any weight. People are fixed on rotation when they should be fixed on correction. Its not even funny how much more smoother and powerful my MKII 's are over my 3401, and I have all bp options on my 3401. The way people on this forum label a 3401 to be a beast is very misleading, the PE-14 is the Beast from the Flex camp.

[Valky]

There is one big thing... keep rotating no matter what. Sorry.

Ok, if you have wording "no matter what" I have to surrender.�� But for sure, it's will always roate in good hand.

[TTQ B4U]

There is one big thing... keep rotating no matter what. Sorry.

exactly. if the buffer isn't rotating it's not correcting to its fullest potential. orbiting isn't correcting swirls nearly as effectively as a pad that is also rotating. rotation is key. that's why on a non-forced rotation buffer you want to place a hash mark on the backing plate.

here's a good Mike Phillips piece on troubleshooting the use of a buffer.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ing-guide.html

[BudgetPlan1]

When I just wanna get something done quick, FLEX 3401. When I wanna *enjoy* getting something done, Rupes 15 or BOSS 21.

Flex is like kicking the door down to get in a room; Rupes/BOSS is like picking the lock. Either way you're in the room, just different methods & consequences but same results.

Running a 6.5" pad w the Flex over a windowless Ford Transit Extended Van is gonna leave you a bit tired; using a BOSS 21 is far less taxing.

Flex is less dependent on technique, 'grab and go'.

[Whitewater25]

Begs the question, would you rather use the 3401 for shorter time or long throw for longer period of time to get same results? Time is $$$ for those who do it for living.

[BudgetPlan1]

Begs the question, would you rather use the 3401 for shorter time or long throw for longer period of time to get same results? Time is $$$ for those who do it for living.

I've seen some seasoned pros use a Rupes 15 and once ya get the technique down solid, probably no time difference between the 2.

[Mike@ShineStruck]

I've seen some seasoned pros use a Rupes 15 and once ya get the technique down solid, probably no time difference between the 2.

Ditto, virtually no difference in time, main difference is the feeling I'm your hands.or.the you're body the next say
forced beats you up, tingles fingers more, longthrows are smoothest