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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    Hello!

    Not sure what you mean by the glaze aspect. I *think* you're talking about the glaze within the Paint Cleaner, as in the fillers/glaze part? If that's the case, then no. My mistake for not posting a pic of that film-type residue left behind. I'm not even sure I took pics of it. So caught up with the process at that point.

    But the glaze was surely still there after I wiped with WW.

    with the 50/50, it does look polished. I would say partly due to the polish pad used (minor correcting from the pad) in conjunction with the cleaning / filling ability of the Paint Cleaner.
    Thanks! Have you observed the durability of the glaze within the paint cleaner?

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    Not yet. Honestly, though, I wouldn't normally use a paint cleaner, glaze, etc, and not protect it with an LSP. This time I did, just to see. But I've been forgetting to check it out! I haven't washed the Yaris in some time either. I'll try during lunch.

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    Thank you!

    I am thinking of getting the paint cleaner and the new sio2 spray sealant. My research led me to your review of PC.

    I dont have a DA and I dont want to remove paint since my test subject is a daily driver. So i am hoping that the glaze within paint cleaner will somehow be durable.

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    No DA? By hand? that will be fun!!

    With the sealant, I would suspect the glaze will hold up fine as it's being protected by the sealant.

    edit: What does TheGuz think?

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    I always felt that the removal of the older BF GEP was not exactly easy. Doesn't sound like they improved upon that aspect. I feel that a paint cleaner should remove easier and not leave any ghosting or film.

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

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    No DA? By hand? that will be fun!!

    With the sealant, I would suspect the glaze will hold up fine as it's being protected by the sealant.

    edit: What does TheGuz think?
    I will not be removing paint so i think my hand can work lol

    Its good exercise Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by DBAILEY View Post
    I always felt that the removal of the older BF GEP was not exactly easy. Doesn't sound like they improved upon that aspect. I feel that a paint cleaner should remove easier and not leave any ghosting or film.
    Maybe the film is the glaze component?

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    Most likely it is the glaze component. I think the GEP used to say that it used some sort of micro-crystalline polymer to fill. So it didn't seem to have a high oil content. Not like the older 3M type of glazes. It was supposed to be okay to put BF sealant on top.

    It just didn't make sense that I would need something to 'clean' the 'paint cleaner' off with.

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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by DBAILEY View Post
    I always felt that the removal of the older BF GEP was not exactly easy. Doesn't sound like they improved upon that aspect. I feel that a paint cleaner should remove easier and not leave any ghosting or film.
    Have also used the GEP, didn't have issues with it.

    With the current use, I'm not sure why it was a tad different experience from the Jeep, to the Yaris. On the Jeep, it was so easy to work with. I probably used too much product on the Yaris. Looking at the pic, that could be it. I doubt it would be the different pad choice (both were "polish" pads).


    Quote Originally Posted by DBAILEY View Post
    It was supposed to be okay to put BF sealant on top.

    It just didn't make sense that I would need something to 'clean' the 'paint cleaner' off with.
    Correct on the sealant. I did just that on the wife's Kia. I used the older GEP, went over it with the sealant, then topped it off with Midnight Sun. Have only done the liftback on hers.
    There was no issue whatsoever with any of the 3 products on the Kia.

    The Yaris was the only time I had any issue. I'd be happy to say it was "user error" that time.

    .........

    At any rate, it's hard to tell from the pics, but the side with the Paint Cleaner is still looking better than the swirley side. The Paint Cleaner was applied on March 10, so just shy of 2 months later.






    EDIT: It's actually easier to see the difference with video. Check it out in HD.


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    Re: Review: BLACKFIRE Paint Cleaner

    Once i got the “approval” to buy more products from autogeek, i will probably try the paint cleaner + sio2 spray sealant combo

    BUT i also like the one step!

    Now i am confused!!! Lol

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