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Re: Best way to use Essence?
Originally Posted by Calendyr
I looks to me like Essence is more like a Glaze/Coating combo than an actual AIO polish in the way it should be used. So basically you want to spread it around really well so it can fill all the pores of the paint, then remove it before it has a chance to dry.
This is sort of an accurate description of the product. It is hard to tell how much is polishing power and how much is filling.
What I will say with my limited experience with the product, is that if you over buff it, it will turn to glue. Less is more. Keep your speed reasonable, lower than you would for a compound obviously (setting 3-4 on Rupes machine).
The other thing is pay attention to the instructions. It says wipe off after 2-3 minutes. I haven't tried to leave it for more than 5 minutes and it has always been easy for me to remove. I feel like if you remove it wet, it won't have time to bond properly. Makes sense to me with this type of product.
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
I've had issues with every single carpro product I've tried. I've yet to get the results I want on the first second or sometimes third try. Yes I get that once you dial it in, the worlds a better place. I have many products that a caveman could use and get near perfect results every time.
In my day we didn't have the Internet, iPods,iPads, or smart phones....but we had some really bad-azz cars.
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
Originally Posted by silverfox
I've had issues with every single carpro product I've tried. I've yet to get the results I want on the first second or sometimes third try. Yes I get that once you dial it in, the worlds a better place. I have many products that a caveman could use and get near perfect results every time.
I love hydro2 lite and reset, but don't like any of their polishes. Your last sentence is right on par.
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
It's funny that you should mention it, because I had some of the same issues with a silver Infiniti that I was applying Essence to in preparation for a coating. I had streaking and a hard time getting the gloss that I could see in places to come out uniformly throughout the finish. I ended up applying and removing it by hand, as if it were a wax, and the results were much better. I don't know if the problem was with the pads, my technique, or the paint itself, but I had to set the polisher aside. The gloss is awesome, and I'll continue to work with it because I'm not ready to give up on it. I'll try different combinations of buffer settings, pads, and technique until I get it right.
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
Originally Posted by JSMet
It's funny that you should mention it, because I had some of the same issues with a silver Infiniti that I was applying Essence to in preparation for a coating. I had streaking and a hard time getting the gloss that I could see in places to come out uniformly throughout the finish. I ended up applying and removing it by hand, as if it were a wax, and the results were much better. I don't know if the problem was with the pads, my technique, or the paint itself, but I had to set the polisher aside. The gloss is awesome, and I'll continue to work with it because I'm not ready to give up on it. I'll try different combinations of buffer settings, pads, and technique until I get it right.
It is not recommended to apply Essence by hand if you're using it as a primer unless you also do a solvent wipe down.
Essence relies on heat generated by machine polishing to help reduce the oils left on the surface. If used by hand, this is not happening. CarPro recommends doing an Eraser wipe down after Essence whenever possible, but especially after applying by hand (per conversation between Avi and myself when Essence was first released).
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
I haven't gotten good results with it either
Just ok results..
Did it on a blue Kia Sorrento as a primer for glosscoat
Looks wonderful
And did it on a white 2000ish Tacoma
Didn't hide swirls
. I feel it could of cut the oxidation a allot better the. It did
But these were the first 2 cars I did with my Rupes mini instead of my boss G21..
Who knows..
I may just stick with 3d adapt and speed
Atleast when I used McKee jeweling wax, the shine was great
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
I have used essence to finish most of my cars in past 5 months...I use Meq MF pads...and worked it till it's gone almost...less is more...and sometimes more is less...but results are awesome...only foam pad I was able to use was carpro gloss pad...I have also done cars only with essence and MF pads...and applied coatings on top of it...
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
Did an other car this week with essence. The sun was blazing down all day and no shade anywhere. So I decided to use it by hand, knowing it cures super fast when done by polisher. 30 seconds application cycle and the product was increadibly hard to remove. I do like the end result but the process is a pain in neck. I am not sure I will buy this product again when I am done with this bottle. I am mobile and I work alone so I can't take 30-60 minutes to setup a canopy everytime I detail a car and then take an other 30-60 mins to remove it afterward. I usually work around the sun, doing the side of the car that is not exposed, working on smaller sections, cleaning pads often with a pad cleaner (just water, no detergent). But essence is very temperamental. I guess if I was in a garage environment with no sun and no wind it might be easier but so far I am less than happy with the process. It's a shame cause the paint looks nice with it applied, especially with Reload on top of it. When I am done with this bottle I think I will go back to M205 and will top with Reload, I really love Reload!
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Re: Best way to use Essence?
Having used many, many polishes throughout the years... I can honestly say Essence is consistently one of the easiest I have used in terms of wiping away after machine polishing.
My only guess is that if you're having that much trouble with it every time, then you're not doing something right. I'd imagine it is the fact that you're working on a hot surface... but I'm not sure as that is not something I have ever experimented with.
I'd certainly agree with your decision of not using it if it is just making things harder for you... stick with what you know.
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