SON1C Blue Paint Correction 40+ hours invested , enjoy!

[drbobbybones]

great write up. I'd love to see how much durability you get out of the BL/Jetseal combo. I have both, but I've never used them together.

[Jomax]

Looks really good! First time using M105? Was it pretty easy to use?


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[swanicyouth]

40 hours is what it takes me too to wash thoroughly, clay, do a 3 step correction, apply 2 coats of a sealant, 2 coats of a wax, clean jams and wells, and dress all trim.

I have no idea how guys do multi step corrections in a day, but I see write ups on them all the time. One thing I do notice,when I work on my own car I tend to do a lot of steps twice for thoroughness.

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by Hammondc

Nice write up. I wonder what caused the blue pad failure?

I guess between a little too much product, not switching pads often enough working in 90-100 humid heat too much pressure, poor quality pads, probably a mixture of all of the above, but thank you

Originally Posted by swanicyouth

Nice job. A lot of hard work that paid off!
I'm wondering, were you polishing outside or in a hot garage? I noticed this heat really affects how hot pads can get. Even on my Porter Cable the pad area was getting pretty warm.

If you flip flop between two pads it gives them time to cool down.

polishing in a cool garage compared to outside lol, but thanks though and at 40+ hours it better have! parts of my gg would have slightly burned if you kept your finger on it

Originally Posted by smack

Very well documented write up. Car looks great.

thanks

Originally Posted by BobbyG

WOW, what a great writeup with a ton of before and after photos!

Pad Failure

More often than not, I've discovered that my pad failures are due to two things in particular; too much product and downward force.

When a pad becomes saturated, the motion of the pad combined with downward force causes the liquid to heat and degrades both the foam and Velcro adhesive which leads to the failure.

You're Mustang came out gorgeous and that blue is stunning! To some detailing is a relatively easy task that should take no more than a couple of hours tops.

I'm glad you took the time to document your work and share it with the group....

thanks bobby appreciate the input, although we had pad fatalities the results were well worth the loss!

Originally Posted by TimmyG

Well done, Sonic.

thanks timmy

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by Klasse Act

That blue is stunning, great job!

thank you

Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx

Great work! Those 50/50 shots show amazing improvement.

yeah this car really needed it, and the side by side swirl removal is only 105! thanks man

[SON1C]

Originally Posted by drbobbybones

great write up. I'd love to see how much durability you get out of the BL/Jetseal combo. I have both, but I've never used them together.

I better get a lot lol, not even one coat but two coats of each, and I'll be adding a coat or two of nuba and sprucing up with v7, thanks for viewing

Originally Posted by Jomax

Looks really good! First time using M105? Was it pretty easy to use?


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yes it was, and it was easy to use, but I couldn't control the dusting, it was bad, all the time, however the results were worth the pain

Originally Posted by swanicyouth

40 hours is what it takes me too to wash thoroughly, clay, do a 3 step correction, apply 2 coats of a sealant, 2 coats of a wax, clean jams and wells, and dress all trim.

I have no idea how guys do multi step corrections in a day, but I see write ups on them all the time. One thing I do notice,when I work on my own car I tend to do a lot of steps twice for thoroughness.

neither do I, nor would I understand how you'd do all that on a trashed paint like this! I haven't even fixed the wheels yet! or glass and trim, and yeah I try to be as thorough as possible on my car if not over, my logic is if I'm going to do it, I'm gonna do it right you know, instead of half assing and and thus getting half ass results

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Originally Posted by swanicyouth

40 hours is what it takes me too to wash thoroughly, clay, do a 3 step correction, apply 2 coats of a sealant, 2 coats of a wax, clean jams and wells, and dress all trim.

I have no idea how guys do multi step corrections in a day, but I see write ups on them all the time. One thing I do notice,when I work on my own car I tend to do a lot of steps twice for thoroughness.

You will one day. I admire your tenacity.

[eaglefan]

Nice job. 105 is a pain, but less product is better. I would guess thats what happened to the pad, to much product. Even if you were priming the pad, like in the one picture, that would be to much for me. With my experience, use less of 105 and work smaller areas. Keep playing around with those 2 things. You will eventually dial it in. I always use many pads when using 105 also. Have fun

[chris.ganucheau]

In the garage that car looks very dark and in the sun it looks light an amazing! Nice job!!

[gmck]

I guess between a little too much product, not switching pads often enough working in 90-100 humid heat too much pressure, poor quality pads, probably a mixture of all of the above, but thank you

poor quality pads

Spent hours upon hours researching techniques

I don’t really wish to sound negative, because the outcome of your effort seems to have certainly satisfied you. However for the sake of new comers here I think this type of post should be corrected for their benefit and hopefully yours as well.

You claim poor quality pads for the failure of the cyan and the tangerine pad. That could not be further from the truth because those pads happen to be very good quality pads if used correctly.

Your obvious mistake was the ridiculous amount of product (M105) you used on the cyan pad. I’d suggest before you blame the quality of the pads that you should have done even more research and learnt how to properly prime a cyan pad. My suggestion to you and anyone else reading, who wishes to use M105 would be to read up on the Kevin Brown method (KBM). It is more than likely that you would have experienced exactly the same problem if you were using the conventional orange and white pads from LC using the same product(s) and technique.

Obviously switching out pads and using the correct pressure and speed are other important considerations. A vehicle of that size (an average size vehicle) would require at least 4 cyan pads to complete a major correction with M105. However if a set of pads is used correctly and cared for after use, then there is no reason for them not to be used on many vehicle corrections. Premature pad failure is almost always user error not manufacturer error.

You will also find as you correct more vehicles in different weather extremes, that temperature and humidity is only a minor consideration. As long as the panel is cool to touch, it shouldn't matter what the temperature is.