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Old 04-08-2007, 10:38 AM
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well if you did buy some you would be the man!!!!! for now ill stick with pinnicle. intill they have a big big huge sale

Me too.. I'm happy with what I have.
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WOW!

Get that man some Pinnacle Souveran paste wax. I never have used Zymol, so I can't say anything about it. Has anyone compare Pinnacle Souveran paste wax to Zymol Royale?
Zymol Royale
Contains 70% Carnauba Sap/Wax by volume (100% White).
  • Refilled at no extra charge, for life.
  • Ingredients derived from nature include sunflower, honeydew and cantaloupe oils.
  • Provides protection that polishes do not.
  • Greater protection with increased depth of shine and reflection.
  • No harsh chemicals or abrasives.
  • No white residue or buildup along seams. $8000.00
The prime ingredient in Pinnacle Souveran is Brazilian Ivory Carnauba. Carnauba wax is world-renown for its crystal clarity, its protective properties and its uncanny shimmer. The wax is produced by a specific tree that grows in the hot, wet valleys of Northern Brazil. The leaves secrete the wax in order to protect themselves from the tropical sun and to shed rainwater, which falls to the tree’s roots. Carnauba wax has the distinction of being the hardest natural wax and it has the highest melting point of any natural wax.

No other natural wax is as sought after as No. 1 yellow carnauba wax, deemed the purest and highest quality by Brazil’s government inspectors. No. 1 yellow carnauba wax is the only wax found in Pinnacle Souveran.


Justin thanks for posting.
Yellow carnauba is the purest natural form but White is then produced from yellow and processed to a more natural clearer form of carnauba hence the clarity , depth and additional cost...........

White carnauba is the most refective carnauba and 70% in Royale will almost be impossible to beat before it turns to biscuit form hence why Royale is such a bugger to apply.......

I have used most of the Zymol waxes now apart from Vintage and can tell the difference between them especially on feel aswell as depth etc....

To be totally honest i think souveran is a fantastic wax and the longevity is its only minus point compared to the z range but if applying monthly this is no problem...

I think the only similarly priced wax (well cheaper) in the uk is p21,s which is a favourite for the price but again does not last......

Some of Pauls customers get a year out of Royale and i think Vintage is a great price for refills if you are a pro detailer if they wernt so ridiculous with the contractual side of things!!!

I believe now you have to be vetted!!!!!

Anyway today i tried my Zymol concours for the first time on a metallic black and was interested to see how it compared to the pinnacle souveran / p21,s look and feel.....

so:

This detail i did today was in full sun for the pre waxing and using zymol concours although i am sure that p21,s will give 99% of the result but maybe slightly less durability....
This cars paintwork was very bad and the owner a young lad over the road was in bed when i nicked his car for this detail....
The paintwork and flake is almost identical to vxr black....
Well got up today and felt bored so after all the Bugatti comments i decided to give one of the neighbours cars a quick detail....
Now this isnt a 20 hour write up or Lambo just a little fiesta but still was good fun....
I set myself a time limit of 4 hours and got started......
This was the car before i started...



I left the wheels to soak for 5 minutes as they were really bad and the paintwork had not been washed for over 3 months....
Ooohhh the youth of today......
I then gave the car a foam bath with super snow foam and then washed off and 2 bucket washed with zymol autobathe ...

Next i clayed the car using autobathe and ro water mixed cap to 1 litre and used zymol lehm clay which needed turning 10 times as car was pretty bad.....

Next i rinsed off with ro water and dryed using aquatouch drying towels which i now swear by and ive ditched all my waffles....
I decided seeing as this was a "can i wash your car for free" situation i used concours on the black to see what it came up like as this is the first metallic black ive done.......

So after hd cleanseing the whole car and then zymol concours applied i was really pleased with the result the concours gave......








To be totally honest im a cheeky so and so and go to my neighbours to watch football everyweek so while the owner was asleep his dad gave me the keys and this was my way of saying "Thanks for not having to subscribe to sky sports!!!!":lol:
He was gobsmacked when he came out at 1pm........
I think the result was pretty good......

Would this be any better than Pinnacle or p21,s i cant say although the paintwork did mask the swirls on the car.........

Although i do have to say that pinnacle crystal mist really seems to be my favourite qd and really brings the shine out........Be interested to know whats in it as i have a gallon which is good value for money!!!!

I may do a split concours / p21,s / souveran test soon!!!

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Old 04-08-2007, 05:40 PM
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vxrmarc, All I can say is you do beautiful work, and the write up is very informative. Please post your pics here on this form anytime. I do enjoy looking at vehicle from across the pond. I'm looking forward to your split concours / p21,s / souveran test. And tell me more about this aquatouch drying towels.
Thanks for sharing.
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Beautiful!


Steps were; wash>clay>HD cleanse>wax, right? No polishing or anything?
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Old 04-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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that veyron was amazing and even the ford looked good at the end here. so i gotta ask, whats with you and paul, is he training you how to get to his level or something?lucky guy if that is the case!
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Next time you would like to watch a game, he should serve pizza and beer.

You sure do Great work.
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I was sitting out on my veranda having a spot of tea this morning, enjoying the bright mornings air so to speak. I looked down at my driver pulling out my new Mercedes 722 and realized she was not up to the days task of a spirited romp thru the the wineries in the valley. So I called Paul and offered a jaunt in my jumbo and a gumbo of glazes, and looking to see him soon as he festers over my paint with his do-dads and trinckets. Sure it will set me back several quid, but damn I am worth it !!!!
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lol hahaha, you make a very convincing european, scott
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Amazing car and work it was so much fun to read
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I would love to even see one of those let alone work on it.

You would have to have some major cujones to wetsand a veyron.
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