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Thread: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms after using a rotary buffer

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    Hi I am a newbie and I hear the term holograms used quite often. Can someone please tell me what a hologram is. Is it the same as a swirl? What causes a hologram? Thanks for indulging my ignorance. If anyone has a picture of a hologram and could post it I would love to see one. Hehe now that must be a first on the forum a person longing to see a hologram. Thanks and hoping that everyone is enjoying this Labor day weekend.
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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    these are also called "trails", but basically the same thing: light marks from the buffing process (and can happen with any machine, rotary or da):


    Should look more like this:

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    thanks for the quick reply, your photo was worth a thousand words.
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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    grumble grumble grumble

    Still had holograms. Although extremely minor and only visible by people looking for them.

    Not happy

    I did 106FA w/ M polishing pad, 85RD L polishing pad, Meg Glaze #3 with finishing pad, Wax

    I'm ordering a Porter Cable, I'd like to see what kind of results that'll yeild.

    Anyways, here's my final delivery pics.




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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    Here you go Stu, people call them Holograms, buffer marks, or a new one to me trails. We have always called them buffer marks all the years I have been doing this.


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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    Chatelaine, why are you going over the paint with #3 after doing 85rd and a finishing pad? There is no need to be doing that. 85rd on a finishing pad, blue in color if it is a CCS pad is the last step. Sounds to me that you are inducing these buy going back over your finish with #3. I never have used #3 as a finishing step, just for minor defect removal.

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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    Quote Originally Posted by ASPHALT ROCKET View Post
    Chatelaine, why are you going over the paint with #3 after doing 85rd and a finishing pad? There is no need to be doing that. 85rd on a finishing pad, blue in color if it is a CCS pad is the last step. Sounds to me that you are inducing these buy going back over your finish with #3. I never have used #3 as a finishing step, just for minor defect removal.
    It's a finishing glaze with just a filler, no cut. Usually I just apply it by hand. 85RD has a slight cut. I think it has a better gloss then 85RD leaves.

    And I use a light polishing pad with 85RD

    And I mentioned I'm using 8" 3M pads (Black, yellow, green, blue, white)

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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    Are you adjusting you speed as you step down into the finishing polish.lol

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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatelaine View Post
    It's a finishing glaze with just a filler, no cut. Usually I just apply it by hand. 85RD has a slight cut. I think it has a better gloss then 85RD leaves.

    And I use a light polishing pad with 85RD

    And I mentioned I'm using 8" 3M pads (Black, yellow, green, blue, white)
    There is noway on God's green earth that #3 is going to look better than 85rd. I have used #3 for numerous years just to remove minor defects and always have to follow it up. Also #3 should be used by machine not hand, this is from my experience with it and the directions on the bottle I just read.There is something a miss in your technique then. You should be able to finish hologram free with 85rd and a finishing pad. The only other polish that is just as good as 85rd or better is Ultrafina, 205 is nice but to me it needs to be followed up also. I think you need to play with 85rd some more to get is full potential.

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    Re: What am I doing wrong :( Holograms

    Sorry I use #7 by hand and #3 with a polisher.
    But I'm sorry, I just like the #3 shine better on black cars. It's just opinion.
    I don't know how you mean play with it more?

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