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    Opti-Seal + Wax

    With my last order I purchased an 8 oz. bottle of Opti-Seal. I will soon be having Collinite 476 in my possession. I plan on doing a full blown detail on my WRX very soon. Ice Silver Metallic paint color. I've really only used the Opti-Seal on glass so far.

    My question is...

    After I polish and do an eraser wipedown i was going to opti-seal my car and then put some 476 on it (Maybe 845 depending on the replies). Would the 476 still bond to the surface with the sealant on it? Is that a dumb question?

    I know I may get some responses saying that its overkill to both.

    Any input?

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    Re: Opti-Seal + Wax

    Many members top a sealant with a wax as you are proposing. Go for it.

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    Re: Opti-Seal + Wax

    If it was me...

    •I would not be doing an Eraser wipe-down in between
    the polishing and the LSP application(s):

    -Why chance any "marring";
    -Neither of these two types of LSPs are 'Coatings'.



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    Re: Opti-Seal + Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    If it was me...

    •I would not be doing an Eraser wipe-down in between
    the polishing and the LSP application(s):

    -Why chance any "marring";
    -Neither of these two types of LSPs are 'Coatings'.



    Bob
    I disagree with Bob and would do an eraser or IPA wipe down after polishing. Exception would be if you were using a water based polish. You want a clean surface for the OS to bond to. Most polishes have oils and you need to get rid of the oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rsurfer View Post
    I disagree with Bob and would do an eraser or IPA wipe down after polishing. Exception would be if you were using a water based polish. You want a clean surface for the OS to bond to. Most polishes have oils and you need to get rid of the oil.
    Yeah I was thinking to myself, "Wouldn't it be better for the Opti-Seal to bond too?"

    I would either be using M205 for Meg's PRC

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    Re: Opti-Seal + Wax

    That's OK to disagree with my reasoning/techniques.

    But please answer this question:
    How did "panel-wipes/panel wipe-downs" become so...
    (I'll call it)..."Mainstream"?

    Why Shucks:
    Before 'Coatings' were introduced to the Detailing-World...
    the only time a "panel wipe" was ever talked about was
    when one was to be used prior to a paint-job/respray.


    It's no sweat off my brow if you want to "wipe panels down" before applying non-Coating LSPs; but, unless the Waxes'/Sealants' manufacturers specifically recommend to perform "panel-wipes" prior to their products applications...why do them?

    I, for one, won't.


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    Good points Bob. If i was doing a customers car and its not necessary as you have put it, then i'd save the time and not do it. When it comes to my personal car I would probably just do it anyways just cause, if that makes sense lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleWrap View Post
    Good points Bob. If i was doing a customers car and its not necessary as you have put it, then i'd save the time and not do it.

    When it comes to my personal car I would probably just do it anyways just cause, if that makes sense lol
    I hope you "just don't cause" any unnecessary
    marring/blemishes by doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    But please answer this question:
    How did "panel-wipes/panel wipe-downs" become so...
    (I'll call it)..."Mainstream"?

    Bob
    Long before coatings became popular..doing an IPA wipe down before using a sealant was common practice. Granted IPA was also used to inspect the surface before waxing. There was a time when detailers were worried about polishes that hid swirls marks. That's when IPA wipe downs became popular.

    Along came GTechniq with their C1 coating. They recommended Panel Wipe before applying C1. Prep All was also a popular paint cleaning product.

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    Re: Opti-Seal + Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Rsurfer View Post
    I disagree with Bob and would do an eraser or IPA wipe down after polishing. Exception would be if you were using a water based polish. You want a clean surface for the OS to bond to. Most polishes have oils and you need to get rid of the oil.
    Mr. Surfer, I agree.

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